The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby JeffN » Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:52 am

Congrats to everyone for the commitments you have made and kept in participating in this group.

I am sure some of you are frustrated with the problems these boards have without any resolution. As such, I have been thinking about some other options to make participation and the group run easier and give us back some of the features we have been missing.

My question to you is.... are you familiar with either of these two and if so, would you be comfortable participating in the group if it was there. Also, let me know any other comments, good or bad, on either one. :)


- Google Groups
https://groups.google.com

- Discord
https://discord.com

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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby Mark Cooper » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:33 am

Hello, everyone! I just wanted to let you know that wildgoose will be facilitating this week's self-reporting check-in; March 23rd is my 49th birthday, so Posey, Beth and I have some outings and little adventures planned. :D Best to all for a fabulous end to the week, and I will see you here next time!
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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby BambiS » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:31 pm

1. Start each meal with a soup and/or salad and/or fruit.
Most days

2. Follow the 50/50 plate method for your meals, filling half your plate (by visual volume) with non-starchy vegetables and 50% (by visual volume) with minimally processed starches. Choose fruit for desert
Yes

3. Greatly reduce or eliminate added sugars and added salts. This includes gourmet sugars and salts, too. If either is troublesome for you, you can eliminate them.
Yes

4. Eliminate all animal foods (dairy, meat, eggs, fish, seafood).
Yes

5. Eliminate all higher fat plant foods (i.e., nuts, seeds, avocados, tofu, soy).
Yes

6. Eliminate any added oil.
Yes

7. Eliminate all higher calorie-dense foods including flour products (i.e., bread, bagels, muffins, crackers, dry cereals, cookies, cakes), puffed cereals, air-popped popcorn and dried fruit.
Yes

8. Don't drink your calories (especially from juices & sugar-sweetened beverages).
Yes


9. Follow these principles, eating whenever you are hungry until you are comfortably full. Don't starve yourself and don't stuff yourself
Yes

10. Avoid being sedentary and aim for at least 30 minutes or more of moderate exercise daily (i.e., brisk walking).
Yes

Victories, comments, concerns, questions good week, nothing eventful
A pretty good week. I tried a couple new Irish recipes. My favorite was the Shepherds Pie that was sent out in email a couple weeks ago. I just made the stew today. I got my exercise in.
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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby Rebecka22 » Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:53 am

1.Start each meal with a soup and/or salad and/or fruit. YES
2. Follow the 50/50 plate method for your meals, filling half your plate (by visual volume) with non-starchy vegetables and 50% (by visual volume) with minimally processed starches. Choose fruit for dessert. YES
3. Greatly reduce or eliminate added sugars and added salts. This includes gourmet sugars and salts, too. If either is troublesome for you, you can eliminate them. YES
4. Eliminate all animal foods (dairy, meat, eggs, fish, seafood). YES
5. Eliminate all higher fat plant foods (i.e., nuts, seeds, avocados, tofu, soy). YES
6. Eliminate any added oil. YES
7. Eliminate all higher calorie-dense foods including flour products (i.e., bread, bagels, muffins, crackers, dry cereals, cookies, cakes), puffed cereals, air-popped popcorn and dried fruit. YES
8. Don't drink your calories (especially from juices & sugar-sweetened beverages). YES
9. Follow these principles, eating whenever you are hungry until you are comfortably full. Don't starve yourself and don't stuff yourself. YES
10. Avoid being sedentary and aim for at least 30 minutes or more of moderate exercise daily (i.e., brisk walking). YES

It was a good and uneventful week. Enjoyed our couple of days of warm and sunshine. Back to rain, but looking forward to more Sun soon. I hope everyone has a great week. Happy Birthday Mark! I have not used google or discord groups, but I would trust what you decide and I greatly value this group. Thanks!
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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby Starflower » Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:57 am

MWL post for 3/23

Hi MWL team! :)


1) Start each meal with a soup and/or salad and/or fruit. YES

2) Follow the 50/50 plate method for your meals, filling half your plate (by visual volume) with non-starchy vegetables and 50% (by visual volume) with minimally processed starches. Choose fruit for desert. YES

3) Greatly reduce or eliminate added sugars and added salts. This includes gourmet sugars and salts too.  If either is troublesome for you, you can eliminate them. YES

4) Eliminate all animal foods (dairy, meat, eggs, fish, seafood). YES

5) Eliminate all higher fat plant foods (i.e., nuts, seeds, avocados, tofu, soy). YES

6) Eliminate any added oil. YES

7) Eliminate all higher calorie-dense foods including flour products (i.e. bread, bagels, muffins, crackers, dry cereals, cookies, cakes), puffed cereals, air-popped popcorn and dried fruit. YES

8 ) Don’t drink your calories (especially from juices & sugar-sweetened beverages). YES

9) Follow these principles, eating whenever you are hungry until you are comfortably full. Don't starve yourself and don't stuff yourself. YES

10) Avoid being sedentary and aim for at least 30 minutes or more of moderate exercise daily (i.e., brisk walking). YES

Victories, comments, concerns, questions:

It was a good week. No major problems staying on plan. The simpler my food gets, the better I do. Onward! :)

Happy Birthday, Mark! :)

Jeff, I have no experience with either of those. Forums such as this are my only ‘social media’ these days. :)

Thank you for filling in, Wildgoose! :)

Wishing everyone a wonderful and healthy week! :)
This journey is one of constant small adjustments. Nothing is ever static, no matter how long you've been eating this way. If something isn't working, you tweak it and make small changes until it works better.
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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby Artista » Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:12 pm

Greeting team Time & Adherence!

1) Start each meal with a soup and/or salad and/or fruit.  Yes, I’ve been mindful to remember to do this.

2) Follow the 50/50 plate method for your meals, filling half your plate (by visual volume) with non-starchy vegetables and 50% (by visual volume) with minimally processed starches. Choose fruit for desert. Yes.

3) Greatly reduce or eliminate added sugars and added salts.  This includes gourmet sugars and salts too.  If either is troublesome for you, you can eliminate them. Yes.

4) Eliminate all animal foods (dairy, meat, eggs, fish, seafood). Yes.

5) Eliminate all higher fat plant foods (i.e., nuts, seeds, avocados, tofu, soy). Close but not perfect. I did use a little soy milk in tea or decaf coffee.

6) Eliminate any added oil. Yes.

7) Eliminate all higher calorie-dense foods including flour products (i.e. bread, bagels, muffins, crackers, dry cereals, cookies, cakes), puffed cereals, air-popped popcorn and dried fruit. Yes.

8 ) Don’t drink your calories (especially from juices & sugar-sweetened beverages). Yes.

9) Follow these principles, eating whenever you are hungry until you are comfortably full.   Don't starve yourself and don't stuff yourself. Yes, I think I ate more at first while adjusting to a lower calorie density, but now I’m trying to be more aware of when I reach that point of being comfortably full.

10) Avoid being sedentary and aim for at least 30 minutes or more of moderate exercise daily (i.e., brisk walking). Yes, I managed to fit in at least 30 minutes of exercise every day.

This was a good week. It wasn't perfect but it may be as perfect as I can be right now. I’m enjoying eating this way, I feel better, and I’m seeing that it's possible to eat this way even when life gets a little chaotic, at least that's what I've found so far.

Mark, have a very happy birthday celebration!

Jeff, I’ve never used Discord and have only very limited experience with Google Groups. I did look at both and I couldn’t really come up with a preference for one over the other. As others have said, I’m sure whatever you decide will be fine.

Wishing everyone a wonderful and successful week!
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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby kirstykay » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:06 am

HAPPY BIRTHDAY,, MARK!! Hope you have a wonderful time with your family!

1. Start each meal with a soup and/or salad and/or fruit.
YES! I am in the habit of this now, and I am surprised how normal it feels to do this. I've started looking forward to it.

2. Follow the 50/50 plate method for your meals, filling half your plate (by visual volume) with non-starchy vegetables and 50% (by visual volume) with minimally processed starches. Choose fruit for desert
Yes

3. Greatly reduce or eliminate added sugars and added salts. This includes gourmet sugars and salts, too. If either is troublesome for you, you can eliminate them.
Yes. I've stopped cooking with salt and only add it at the table now. This has been quite a shift and not an easy one.

4. Eliminate all animal foods (dairy, meat, eggs, fish, seafood).
Yes

5. Eliminate all higher fat plant foods (i.e., nuts, seeds, avocados, tofu, soy).
Yes. This is what I am most proud of this week. I have eliminated the avocado and tofu from my regular rotation of meals.

6. Eliminate any added oil.
Mostly. I had a premade black bean burger that had oil in it. But no restaurant visits this week.

7. Eliminate all higher calorie-dense foods including flour products (i.e., bread, bagels, muffins, crackers, dry cereals, cookies, cakes), puffed cereals, air-popped popcorn and dried fruit.
Yes

8. Don't drink your calories (especially from juices & sugar-sweetened beverages).
No. I put oat milk in my Crio Bru

Jeff, I've heard of Discord, but never used it myself. My adult kids use it to "meet up" with old friends. As far as Google, my only concern with that is they seem to always be changing things on their platform. For instance, they recently got rid of Google Music and Google Podcasts. It seems unreliable for our purposes. I'd be willing to try whatever you think would be good for us, though.


9. Follow these principles, eating whenever you are hungry until you are comfortably full. Don't starve yourself and don't stuff yourself
Yes

10. Avoid being sedentary and aim for at least 30 minutes or more of moderate exercise daily (i.e., brisk walking).
Ye
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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby Gimmelean » Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:40 am

MWL Post for week ending 3/22/24
Greetings!

1) Start each meal with a soup and/or salad and/or fruit.
Yes.

2). Follow the 50/50 plate method for your meals.
Yes.

3) Greatly reduce or eliminate added sugars and added salts.  This includes gourmet sugars and salts too.  If either is troublesome for you, you can eliminate them.
Yes

4) Eliminate all animal foods (dairy, meat, eggs,)
Yes

5) Eliminate all higher fat plant foods (i.e., nuts, seeds, avocados, tofu,soy).
Yes

6) Eliminate any added oil.
Yes

7) Eliminate all higher calorie-dense foods including flour products (i.e. bread, bagels, muffins, crackers, dry cereals, cookies, cakes), puffed cereals, air popped popcorn, and dried fruit.
Yes

8 ) Don’t drink your calories (especially from juices & sugar-sweetened beverages). Yes.

9) Follow these principles, eating whenever you are hungry until you are comfortably full.   Don't starve yourself and don't stuff yourself.
Yes

10) Avoid being sedentary and aim for at least 30 minutes or more of moderate exercise daily (i.e., brisk walking).
Yes. Exercise makes a huge positive difference. It’s a big link in the 10 point MWL “chain”.

11)Posting before the close of the week
Yes !

Victories, Questions, Comments:
I look forward to weeks like this where following MWL guidelines doesn’t feel like a huge effort and just feels like the right thing to do. I can pinpoint times of the year when I’m always most challenged; from November through February. Despite those challenges I’m thrilled to look back and realize that I’ve maintained my MWL weight loss for almost 4 years. I could not drop those pounds in any other way much less keep them off. I am more than grateful for your help, guidance towards self illumination, insight, education, encouragement. . .
I read about the Starch Solution years ago and thought that was way too hard for me to even remotely consider. Lessons learned!
Ready to dig in to a big bowl of longevity soup if there’s any left for me. :-)
Thank you.

Mark, a very Happy Birthday!! Wildgoose, thank you for facilitating this week.
Jeff, while I’ve never used Google or Discord, I will adapt to follow the group. Despite technical glitches from time to time I’ve always found manageable workarounds in this forum. It’s helpful to type my post into a Note and then copy and paste it here. I don’t lose my post if it doesn’t go through and seems to work well
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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby VegSeekingFit » Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:28 am

Hi Team Time & Adherence, :)

1 Start each meal with a soup and/or salad and/or fruit.
Still about 50% of the time.

2 Follow the 50/50 plate method for your meals, filling half your plate (by visual volume) with non-starchy vegetables and 50% (by visual volume) with minimally processed starches. Choose fruit for dessert.
Yes.

3 Greatly reduce or eliminate added sugars and added salts. This includes gourmet sugars and salts too. If either is troublesome for you, you can eliminate them.
Yes – reduced not eliminated.

4 Eliminate all animal foods (dairy, meat, eggs, fish, seafood).
Yes.

5 Eliminate all higher fat plant foods (i.e., nuts, seeds, avocados, tofu, soy).
Mostly. See 7.

6 Eliminate any added oil.
Mostly. See 7.

7 Eliminate all higher calorie-dense foods including flour products (i.e., bread, bagels, muffins, crackers, dry cereals, cookies, cakes, puffed cereals, air-popped popcorn, and dried fruit).
Mostly. I had a meal out after a group pickleball event. I ordered a hummus tray which had beautiful raw veggies (including black broccoli, watermelon radish, cucumber, carrots) and a few pita bread triangles with hummus. I left about 75% of the hummus, but I did eat some and it was definitely made with tahini and drizzled with oil on top (which I tried to eat around). Next time I will ask for double veggies with no hummus or pita. I have not mastered the bring your own food into the restaurant with you skill. I did have potatoes and an apple in the car which I planned to eat on the way home --- but I was hungrier than I thought after playing pickleball and did not wait or go get what I brought from the car.

8 Don’t drink your calories especially from juices & sugar-sweetened beverages.
Yes.

9 Follow these principles, eating whenever you are hungry until you are comfortably full. Don't starve yourself and don't stuff yourself.
Yes. Continuing to be mindful here. I caught myself twice this week continuing to eat past satiation and was able to hit pause.

10 Avoid being sedentary and aim for at least 30 minutes or more of moderate exercise daily (i.e., brisk walking).
Yes – 6/7. Traded out exercising one day for hanging out with my son – we had a great time so was worth it!!

Victories, comments, concerns, questions:

Happy official spring!!! Here in Chicagoland, we got hit with an inch of snow yesterday --- covering the daffodils. The chill should be short-lived and the snow is mostly melted!

Jeff – As others have said, I am comfortable participating with the group in either of these options. I value this group and will move where it goes!! I am only familiar with the email type of Google Groups which works like Mailchimp. I have “lightly” participated in a Discord group last summer --- ironically one that a guy from the McD 12 day last July set up. Discord seems to be intuitive to use and provides a plethora of ways to express yourself (emojis, etc.). To participate in a Discord group, you must be invited, and some may need support to get up and running once they receive the invite. Would be happy to support in a dry run or beta testing or anything needed to move to a different venue.

I do exactly as Gimmelean described for posting here. I always copy / paste from a document on my home PC and if I get logged off, I just re-copy it.

Mark –Hope that you have a fantastic birthday celebrating with your family!
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Wishing everyone a happy and healthy week!

Cheers,
Stephanie
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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby sarabee » Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:33 am

Hello, friends,
Happy Birthday, Mark!! Thank you, Wildgoose, for supporting us this week. JeffN, I don’t have any experience with Google groups or with Discord. But, when I clicked on your link for Google, something called zombi porn came up.

Thanks to everyone who posted this week. I really enjoy your comments and appreciate the encouragement it gives me. Starflower, I agree with you that the simpler the food, the easier it is to stay on track. For me, preparation is also key. Yesterday as I assessed the week, I felt that I had really fallen off the wagon. But looking carefully, everything I ate was nutritious and 90% compliant with MWL. I went shopping yesterday and will start the new week with a positive attitude. I know I am striving for my healthiest self!!

1.Start each meal with a soup and/or salad and/or fruit. NO. BUT, TODAY I AM MAKING A LIGHT VEGGIE SOUP, TO BE AT THE READY!!
2. Follow the 50/50 plate method for your meals, filling half your plate (by visual volume) with non-starchy vegetables and 50% (by visual volume) with minimally processed starches. Choose fruit for dessert. YES, MOSTLY
3. Greatly reduce or eliminate added sugars and added salts. This includes gourmet sugars and salts, too. If either is troublesome for you, you can eliminate them. YES
4. Eliminate all animal foods (dairy, meat, eggs, fish, seafood). YES
5. Eliminate all higher fat plant foods (i.e., nuts, seeds, avocados, tofu, soy). MOSTLY
6. Eliminate any added oil. YES
7. Eliminate all higher calorie-dense foods including flour products (i.e., bread, bagels, muffins, crackers, dry cereals, cookies, cakes), puffed cereals, air-popped popcorn and dried fruit. MOSTLY
8. Don't drink your calories (especially from juices & sugar-sweetened beverages). YES
9. Follow these principles, eating whenever you are hungry until you are comfortably full. Don't starve yourself and don't stuff yourself. YES
10. Avoid being sedentary and aim for at least 30 minutes or more of moderate exercise daily (i.e., brisk walking). YES, I GET A LOT OF GOOD EXERCISE.

I have a good week, everybody!!
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Reporting for this week's Assessments is now CLOSED

Postby wildgoose » Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:00 pm

The window for reporting this week's behavioral results has officially closed.

My replies and the weekly summary will follow.
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Wildgoose Replies for March 23, 2024

Postby wildgoose » Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:03 pm

BambiS — "Nothing eventful" is a very good report! :) Glad you liked your Irish recipes. Shepherd's Pie is one of those things that's amazingly flexible. I use the basic recipe as a template for cleaning out the fridge/freezer. Anything I happen to have in there that sounds good can go into the mix. Vary the seasonings, depending on the ingredients. Add a mashed-potato topping, brown it a bit, and I have an endlessly variable, filling and delicious meal.

Rebecka22 — Look at all those YESes! Another vote for "good and uneventful." Looks like we're starting a pattern here -- a very good one in the world of Time and Adherence. Congratulations!

If your weather is anything like ours, a couple of days of warm and sunshine is soon followed by rain and colder. Typical roller-coaster spring. Fortunately, the spring flowers are hardy and seem to be surviving frequent plunges below freezing.

Starflower — A good "no major problems" report -- well done!
Starflower wrote:The simpler my food gets, the better I do.

This is SO TRUE! One of the maxims of this WOE is that it's simple, even though it may not be easy. But the simpler you can make things, the easier it is to stay on track. If you worry about perfecting a complicated recipe or planning a list of menus for major variety, it just gives you that much more to think about. An overtaxed brain can lead to that little siren song of temptation that tells you it would be so much easier just to order take-out. Keep it simple, and your path to success is much straighter.

Artista — Your report looks quite close to perfect! And if it's as perfect as you can get it right now, don't let the goal of "perfect" distract you from the reality of "pretty darn good." :) I think your observation on eating more while adjusting to lower calorie density is valid. I know when I lowered the calorie density of my meals, I felt a little "crave-y" as a result of the lower overall fat content of what I was eating. I wanted more, but it was a different feeling than normal hunger. If I ate what I thought was enough to kill that feeling, it turned out to be too much for "comfortably full." I eventually adjusted, but it took some time and experimentation. Good for you to tune into what "comfortably full" means for you.

kirstykay — Congratulations on your big gains with points #3 and #5! Only adding salt at the table will definitely lower your sodium intake. And eliminating avocado and tofu is a really big deal! You definitely should be proud.

The premade black bean burger is something you can work on. Restaurant meals can be harder to deal with, but burgers stored in your home fridge or freezer can definitely be switched out for something healthier (see the links in my followup post below for information on the commercial plant-based burgers). I recommend Jeff's burger recipe. Easy to make, easy to alter in terms of type of bean used (double the recipe and sub a different type of bean for one of the cans of beans), easy to change out the spices and other ingredients added. They freeze beautifully, defrost quickly, and are just as easy to have on hand for a quick meal as the packaged kinds. This file has the recipe for the burgers (Dishes 5 and 6 under the Recipes section) along with a lot of other very valuable information, which I highly recommend. There's also a black bean/lentil burger recipe on Jeff's Facebook page, if the black beans are particularly appealing to you. I haven't tried that burger, so if you do, let us know what you think!

Gimmelean — Great report! And congratulations on almost 4 years of weight loss maintenance. You've learned a lot about the times of year when you're most challenged and how to navigate them. The point from your post that stands out to me is this...
Gimmelean wrote:I look forward to weeks like this where following MWL guidelines doesn’t feel like a huge effort and just feels like the right thing to do.

That's what we're aiming for -- an ease with the program that only comes with Time and Adherence. You find where the challenges are, you figure out how to fix them, and the whole process becomes seamless and practically automatic. That doesn't mean that other bumps in the road won't happen, but figuring out how to avoid them or manage them gets much easier with practice.

Like you, and many others, I read about the McDougall program (I had a copy of the original McDougall Plan book gathering dust for years!) a long time ago and was convinced that I couldn't do it. Lessons learned for both of us!

VegSeekingFit - Another good report, Stephanie. Sounds like your next goal is to figure out how to get a bit of your own food into a restaurant without feeling uncomfortable or self-conscious. I've found that if I just do it matter-of-factly, hardly anybody notices. You can have some simple, off-the-cuff comments at the ready if you get a comment from your table-mates ("yes, I bring my own hummus -- I like it a lot better" -- you don't need to go into detail). I've never yet had a server say anything to me. I've even brought a baked potato in foil, which I just unwrap and slip onto the plate next to the veggies. It blends in, and nobody notices (except maybe in envy, because your meal looks better than theirs!). Same thing with a no-oil bowl of brown rice, microwaved for 90 seconds right before I leave home, then wrapped in a paper towel and a zipper-lock bag to keep warm in my tote bag.

I agree, time hanging out with your son is a fine trade-off for a day of exercise, especially with your pickleball schedule!

We didn't get snow in central Illinois, but the temp sure dropped like a rock when the front went through!

Nice picture for Mark's birthday. I love anything with wild birds on it (guess it's a Goose thing :lol:).

sarabee — Not a bad report at all! 90% is definitely progress, and you have solid plans for improvement. One of the useful things about the checklist is that you can see whether your actual behaviors were better or worse than what your overall impression of how things are going is telling you. Sometimes, it turns out that you're doing better than you think! Other times, it shows that you might be overestimating your level of compliance a little and need to tighten some things up. Either way, the checklist is a valuable tool.

As you've noted, preparation is key (along with attitude)! Make that light veggie soup and always have it on hand. I usually have a container in the freezer as well as a big batch in the fridge. Also, if you're finding that you're having trouble staying out of the higher calorie density stuff in the cupboards, see what you can trim from your shopping list so that tempting off-plan foods won't be right under your nose. The trick is to make the optimal behavior easy and the less optimal behavior harder.

You might want to concentrate on just turning one of those "MOSTLYs" into a "YES". Any ideas on what to tackle first?
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In Closing,

Postby wildgoose » Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:06 pm

Congratulations to all the participants. A lot of good work is going on here. We're all trying to be smooth-feathered birds, gliding effortlessly along the pond, but there's a lot of strong paddling that has to go on underneath to make that happen.

Mark has recently been giving us some thoughts on the points of the checklist, taking them in order. The point for this week would be #4. I’ll add my comments here and leave it to Mark to address this point next week or move on to #5, as he wishes.

Many people see #4 as a no-brainer. Of course, we don’t eat animal food. It’s one of the basics of McDougall eating — indeed, a basic principle of the entire plant-based world. Many people avoid meat, either for health, or as a way to avoid cruelty to animals, or both. Dairy and eggs are also a major factor in health problems such as high cholesterol, heart disease, etc.

Newcomers to this way of eating often wonder how they’ll ever be able to give up these foods, long a mainstay of the Standard American Diet. Friends and family are equally baffled — “whatever will you be able to eat?” they ask.

As plant-based eating has become more popular, the processed food industry has “helpfully” (I say sarcastically) provided “delicious” and “healthy” alternatives for the vegetarian/vegan consumer. These items are packaged in a way that makes using them easy and convenient. The labels are designed to draw attention and make the products seem like a good choice. Beyond Burger claims “new meatier taste” and “35% less sat. fat” than a comparable patty of 80/20 ground beef. Daiya makes a “deliciously dairy-free” product that is a “good source of calcium” and "non-GMO."

We know better. Jeff always says in his label-reading presentations, “NEVER, EVER BELIEVE ANYTHING ON THE FRONT OF A PACKAGE.” Still, we continue to hope for easy, convenient, tasty substitutes for the animal foods we once ate every day. Many forum participants ask about these products, and the discussion has been very interesting.

Beyond Meat or Beyond Health?
Going to a vegan restaurant. “Impossible Burger”
Finally a good cheese (no, it isn’t)

The bottom line is, the processed “fakes” are not viable alternatives, even though we keep thinking that one will magically appear. However, there are very good options for us. One of my favorites is the famous Jeff Novick burger. The Gander and I have a container full of delicious Jeffburgers (for the general recipe, see the link in my reply to kirstykay above) in the freezer that we think taste better and are certainly far more health-promoting than anything Beyond or Impossible. In fact, a couple of those might be on the menu for tonight! :lol:

Hope you all have a good week. Happy Birthday to Mark, and I trust he’s enjoying his weekend of outings and adventures. He'll be back next week for the last check-in of March.

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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby Mark Cooper » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:49 am

Many, many thanks to wildgoose for the brilliant stewardship of this group!

I had a lovely birthday and I'm so grateful for all the well wishes posted here. Thank you!

This week, everyone can post their self-assessment reports as usual. I will make my replies and summarize things on SUNDAY, as Beth and I are taking Posey to NYC on Saturday for a special walking tour in which she's been asking to participate. Should be a fun day!

May the close of your week bring satisfaction and delight! :D
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Re: The Behavioral Path to MWL Success - March 2024 Group

Postby BambiS » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:32 pm

1. Start each meal with a soup and/or salad and/or fruit.
Most days

2. Follow the 50/50 plate method for your meals, filling half your plate (by visual volume) with non-starchy vegetables and 50% (by visual volume) with minimally processed starches. Choose fruit for desert
Yes

3. Greatly reduce or eliminate added sugars and added salts. This includes gourmet sugars and salts, too. If either is troublesome for you, you can eliminate them.
Yes

4. Eliminate all animal foods (dairy, meat, eggs, fish, seafood).
Yes

5. Eliminate all higher fat plant foods (i.e., nuts, seeds, avocados, tofu, soy).
Yes

6. Eliminate any added oil.
Yes

7. Eliminate all higher calorie-dense foods including flour products (i.e., bread, bagels, muffins, crackers, dry cereals, cookies, cakes), puffed cereals, air-popped popcorn and dried fruit.
Yes

8. Don't drink your calories (especially from juices & sugar-sweetened beverages).
Yes


9. Follow these principles, eating whenever you are hungry until you are comfortably full. Don't starve yourself and don't stuff yourself
Yes

10. Avoid being sedentary and aim for at least 30 minutes or more of moderate exercise daily (i.e., brisk walking).
Yes

Victories, comments, concerns, questions good week, nothing eventful
Mark, I hope you had a great birthday!

A good week, I’m planning on increasing the lowest calorie dense foods next week.
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