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Thanks, in part to Dr. Lisle, for sure. I am seeing the pleasure trap for what it is, and seeing that I can overcome it by staying away from the foods we were never designed to eat. It's physiological more than psychological.
kirstykay wrote: This was just a matter of determination for me because watching YouTube videos of people using these products somehow gave me licence to think, "well, High Carb Hannah uses those things, and she lost 70 pounds and eats really healthy, so why not me???
Mark Cooper wrote:If the MWL 10-Point Checklist had an 11th point, it would be -
DO NOT OVERCOMPLICATE THIS!
As Jeff observed, in his discussion of the MWL guidelines -
JeffN wrote:
People will often say, I was doing the MWL program but it wasn't working till I also did "X," to which they are often unaware that "X" Is already a part of the MWL program. On the other hand, people will often say they are following the MWL program and doing "Y" but they are unaware that "Y" is not part of the MWL program nor recommended.
Before making any "hack" to the MWL program, we recommend you give the MWL program with the refinements mentioned above a fair and honest chance.
Here are a few of the "hacks" people make that are not recommended. None of these are new. All have been around for a long time and seem to get recycled every few years
- A predominately raw food diet
- Eating only raw foods till 4 PM
- Intermittent fasting
- Restricted feeding window
- Extended fasts to lose weight
- Smoothies
- Juicing
- Basing their diet on non-starchy vegetables.
- Not including starch at each meal.
- Delaying the starch component of a meal.
- Eating only fruit for breakfast
- Eating only non-starchy vegetables for breakfast
- Excessive or extreme exercise
- Food Combining
- Meal Replacements
- Supplements
The MWL 10-Point Checklist is clear, easy to understand, and easy to use; but remember that it is also a very powerful tool backed up by a thorough review and understanding of the relevant scientific literature, with insight provided by the decades of clinical experience Dr. McDougall and Jeff Novick have working with clients. It is easy to start feeling anxious if you are struggling, and equally easy to get worried about improving or sustaining progress when doing well - as much as you can, try not to worry. Trust that the MWL 10-Point Checklist works, and just do your very best to put the ten points into practice.
But what is more important and what I feel to be the most important test, is what I call the "plate test." Very few people know about it yet it is one of the most effective tests and simple and easy to do and very inexpensive. You can even do it at home.
Here is how you do it.
When you sit down to eat each meal, look at your "plate" and see if it passes this "test", the "Plate Test."
Are at least 95% of the calories on your plate coming from unrefined unprocessed fruits, vegetables, starchy vegetables, intact whole grains and/or legumes? Are there at least 12-15 grams of fiber coming from whole natural foods? Does it meet my guidelines for sodium? Are any "exceptions" being kept to less than 5% of calories?
If your meal passes this "Plate Test", then I think that is the most effective test you can ever have done and the best indicator of your future health and longevity.
...this is what I find most people are really arguing for. Not about fish, or fish oil, or coffee or tea, or chocolate or wine or anything else, but just for evidence that they can somehow (Please!!) continue whatever it is they are enjoying that they are being told to (or fear will have to) give up. The real fear is not heart disease or having to take medication, but their real fear is the quality of life that perceive they may have to give up and the one they may have to settle for.
But don't do it out of fear, do it out of love. For love of exuberant health. For love of life. For love of a healthy future with your family and children and grandchildren. For love of things you enjoy so you can keep doing them longer and in good health.
BTW, there are several published studies on people who have had to adopt very strict diets either by choice or because they had to, and they have been followed for a year or more and in almost all cases they report a greater quality of life in every measure. Same thing in the National Weight Control Registry, as over 98% reported an improved quality of life even after having to make the most dramatic changes to get the best results then ever before.
But don't do it out of fear, do it out of love. Don't be afraid of what you will lose. Look forward to what you will gain.
Weight Change: +1.0
I GAINED weight this week. So discouraging. In retrospect, I guess I'm not surprised. I can tell I've been overeating and getting off plan. It's a good exercise to reflect on where I've gotten off the last couple of weeks:
~ I haven't been as careful to follow all of the 10 points on the checklist.
~ I had some very difficult issues in my family come up that were extremely distressing and I there were several nights I didn't sleep much at all. This will be an ongoing issue, but I feel like I am coping a bit better and definitely sleeping better. I also know I was eating more for comfort and not hunger.
~ I joined a wfpb "challenge" in a different group to eliminate sugar that had several new recipes and I think they were too calorie rich for me. They used a lot more fruit, and I found myself going to the fridge looking for these foods throughout the day, which I know means they were too rich, even though they were made with all compliant ingredients. I recognize that joining this challenge was a big mistake and something that Jeff has warned about when he warns about trying weight loss "hacks" instead of just working hard at perfecting THIS program. I got caught up in it and thought it would be fun, but it backfired and actually made me lose my focus.
~ I added tofu to my stir-fry once, and grabbed a handful of my husband's nuts once. It scared me that I went looking for those.
~ I'm not doing the 50/50 plate as much as I was, or the soup or salad before meals much at all. This is an easy fix.
~ Full disclosure - I had completely given up coffee, but decided I could go through Starbucks "just this once" and get a soy latte. Well...predictably, I have found myself in the Starbucks drive-through a couple more times after that. This is a VERY slippery slope for me, and I have learned my lesson.
~ I think I'm just getting tired of slow weight loss. And that is making me feel less motivated. The problem with this is that the result of being less dedicated and more lax results in NO weight loss (last week) or even weight gain (this week). I feel like I HAVE to be 100% or it doesn't work...this feels so unfair and frustrating to me, and makes me want to indulge. Stupid, I know!
Well... I've wasted enough time feeling sorry for myself...time to fix it. This has been a good exercise of reflecting on exactly what I have been doing wrong and where I can improve. It is helpful to face the reality of what's going on and fix it instead of just generally feeling like "I'm doing most things right, but it's not working anymore." That's the lie I tell myself right before I throw in the towel and find myself back in the pleasure trap and gaining all my weight back. I've worked too hard to let that happen this time.
In retrospect, I actually feel lucky that I only gained a pound this week! I know this has been a really long post, but it has also been very eye-opening for me. If I didn't take the time to do this, I would just continue down a bad road fooling myself into thinking that this "just isn't working anymore." I'm so grateful for this group and the opportunity for a weekly weigh in and reflection and feedback so that I can get back on track before it's too late!
On a good note, My exercise habit is well established and I actually look forward to my morning walks and my evening swims each day, and my weekend bike rides. I can tell my body likes it too. I am getting stronger and firming up, which is very rewarding, and shows in my clothes!
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