The 'setpoint' theory in action

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The 'setpoint' theory in action

Postby MarkCSpangenberg » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:11 am

Average Weight
2006 2007 2008
Jan 271.06 268.72 266.87
Feb 271.64 269.64 266.83
Mar 269.58 270.02 265.48
Apr 267.30 273.98 268.47
May 266.81 276.21 270.32
Jun 263.85 275.75 271.87
Jul 265.40 268.90 271.00
Aug 263.95 265.15 264.61
Sep 261.82 267.67 265.17
Oct 263.13 268.03 265.77
Nov 264.71 269.53 266.10
Dec 266.38 269.77 269.31
Avg 266.30 270.28 267.65


Average Waist
2006 2007 2008
Jan 52.76 51.91 51.94
Feb 52.69 52.14 52.16
Mar 52.40 52.37 52.20
Apr 52.00 52.68 52.62
May 51.82 53.06 52.69
Jun 51.29 53.22 52.88
Jul 51.34 52.80 52.83
Aug 51.16 52.10 51.74
Sep 51.03 52.50 51.72
Oct 51.20 52.34 51.90
Nov 51.45 52.46 51.88
Dec 51.67 52.57 52.31
Avg 51.73 52.51 52.24
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Postby JeffN » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:20 am

I would argue that the set point theory may exist but not as commonly believed. That our weight is not the result of a certain predetermined number that our body fights to maintain but that our weight is the result of our maintaining an environment and a certain set of behaviors (diet, activity, etc) in a "zone" that we are most comfortable with. If we change these behaviors (the difficult part), we change the resulting weight and/or set point. Granted, this is not easy, but can be done. So, the question is, are we returning to a certain number/weight, or are we returning to a certain set of behaviors that result in that weight?

Did everyone's set point rise dramatically in the last 25 years? Or is this the result of a change in the environment and the behaviors related to energy balance including an increase in the availability of inexpensive calorie dense food, and a environment that encourages a sedentary lifestyle?

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New data challenge popular set point theory of obesity
Bruce Jancin

DENVER -- It's high time to toss out the long-popular set point theory of obesity, according to speakers at an international conference of the Academy for Eating Disorders.

The set point theory holds that obesity entails a metabolic defect that functions as a homeostatic mechanism. This defect is supposed to result in a slowdown of resting metabolic rate in an overweight or obese individual who has lost weight. The resultant reduction in energy expenditure is said to be responsible for the often-observed scenario in which the individual regains the weight that was lost and thereby returns to his or her set point.

The set point theory enjoys widespread popularity among the overweight public, in whom it fosters a fatalism regarding the condition of obesity. The theory also holds sway among many physicians who work with obese patients and/or those with eating disorders.

But scientific support for the set point theory is limited to old data derived from outdated methods of physiologic measurement.

Recent studies using far more sophisticated and accurate methods of metabolic assessment consistently challenge the theory, said Cheryl L. Rock, Ph.D., professor of family and preventive medicine at the University of California, San Diego.

One new method is the doubly labeled water technique, a form of indirect calorimetry based on the elimination of deuterium and oxygen-18 from urine. It allows researchers to measure total energy expenditure over a period of days, using only periodic sampling of urine to measure turnover of hydrogen and oxygen into water and carbon dioxide.

Such modern methods have shown that although a metabolic slowdown can occur during active weight loss because the patient has a marked caloric deficit, the slowdown ends once the patient reaches the target weight and shifts into weight-maintenance mode.

"There really is not a lot of data here in 2003 that support the existence of some defect in energy expenditure or energy utilization. The set point theory is on pretty thin ice now in the nutrition science community," Dr. Rock said at the meeting, which was sponsored by the University of New Mexico.

Instead, differences in physical activity are emerging as the key issue in determining who will regain lost body weight. "Rather than something internal going wrong metabolically, the weight return seems to be largely a function of [a lack of] voluntary physical activity of the type we call lifestyle activity: just moving around more, not being a couch potato," she explained.

She cited a recent influential prospective study led by the late Dr. Roland L. Weinsier of the University of Alabama, Birmingham. It included 47 premenopausal sedentary women followed for 1 year. Of the 47 women, 27 were classified as weight maintainers because they gained no more than 3% of their initial body weight 'during the 1-year period; this group had a mean weight loss of 0.5 kg. The other 20 women gained more than 10% of their initial body weight and were classified as gainers; this group had a mean increase of 9.5 kg.

Four weeks of metabolic testing during energy-balanced, diet-controlled conditions at baseline and after 1 year showed that gainers had a lower energy expenditure during normal activities, a lower level of physical activity, and less muscle strength, at baseline and at follow-up. About 77% of the weight gain in the gainer group could be explained by their lower energy expenditure. Energy expenditure during sleep, 24hour utilization of nutritional substrates, and exercise economy didn't differ between the two groups (Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 75[3]:499-504, 2002).


Am J Clin Nutr. 2002 Mar;75(3):499-504. Free-living activity energy expenditure in women successful and unsuccessful at maintaining a normal body weight. Weinsier RL, Hunter GR, Desmond RA, Byrne NM, Zuckerman PA, Darnell BE.

BACKGROUND: Although physical inactivity is believed to contribute to the rising prevalence of obesity, the role and magnitude of its contribution to weight gain are unknown. OBJECTIVE: We compared total free-living activity energy expenditure (AEE) and physical activity level in women successful and unsuccessful at maintaining a normal body weight. DESIGN: Premenopausal, generally sedentary women were studied at their normal weight and 1 y later after no intervention. Two groups were identified on the basis of extreme weight changes: maintainers (n = 27) had a weight gain of less-than-or-equal 3% of their initial body weight ( less-than-or-equal 2 kg/y) and gainers (n = 20) had a weight gain of >10% (>6 kg/y). At baseline and follow-up, evaluations were conducted during 4 wk of diet-controlled, energy-balance conditions. Free-living AEE and physical activity were assessed with the use of doubly labeled water, exercise energy economy and muscle strength with the use of standardized exercise tests, and sleeping EE and substrate utilization with the use of chamber calorimetry. RESULTS: Maintainers lost a mean (plus minusSD) of 0.5 plus minus 2.2 kg/y and gainers gained 9.5 plus minus 2.1 kg/y. Gainers had a lower AEE (P < 0.02), a lower physical activity level (P < 0.01), and less muscle strength (P < 0.001); these differences between groups remained significant from baseline to follow-up. Sleeping EE, exercise economy, and sleeping or 24-h substrate utilization were not significantly different between the 2 groups. A lower AEE in the gainers explained approximately 77% of their greater weight gain after 1 y. CONCLUSION: The general US population should increase their daily physical activity levels to decrease the rising prevalence of obesity. PMID: 11864855
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anecdotally...

Postby AaranaKinsley » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:59 am

My own experience with the "set point" is just as Jeff says. I have seen my own set point drop ten pounds as a McDougaller.
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Postby MarkCSpangenberg » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:18 pm

I agree that the concept of setpoint is really just very 'sticky' habits. I know what I need is permanent, healthy habit changes.

I do find it intellectually fascinating how consistent my weight has run over a long time despite varying levels of exercise and attempts to change my diet. Three years is about 1000 days. My chart shows a weight loss of 1.75lbs over that time period. 1.75x3500/1000=6 kcal per day deficit average. 6 kcal/2500kcal per day = 0.24%. My body has been 99.76% perfect in holding onto its current weight - on a daily calorie basis.
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Re: The 'setpoint' theory in action

Postby JeffN » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:55 am

Effect of dietary adherence on the body weight plateau: a mathematical model incorporating intermittent compliance with energy intake prescription. Am J Clin Nutr. 2014 Sep;100(3):787-95. doi: 10.3945/ajcn.113.079822. Epub 2014 Jul 30.

Abstract

BACKGROUND:
Clinical weight loss in individuals typically stabilizes at 6 mo. However, validated models of dynamic energy balance have consistently shown weight plateaus between 1 and 2 y. The cause for this discrepancy is unclear.

OBJECTIVE:
We developed 2 mathematical models on the basis of the first law of thermodynamics to investigate plausible explanations for reaching an early weight plateau at 6 mo.

DESIGN:
The first model was an energy-expenditure adaptation model and was applied to determine the degree of metabolic adaptation required to generate this plateau. The second model was an intermittent lack-of-adherence model formulated by using a randomly fluctuating energy intake term accounting for intermittent noncompliance in dietary intake to reach this plateau. To set model variables, validate models, and compare free-living weight-loss patterns to in-residence supervised programs, we applied the following 4 different studies: The US NHANES 1999-2004, Comprehensive Assessment of Long-term Effects of Reducing Intake of Energy (CALERIE) weight-loss study, the Bouchard Twin overfeeding study, and the Minnesota Starvation Experiment.

RESULTS:
The metabolic adaptation model increased final weight but did not affect the predicted plateau time point. The intermittent lack-of-adherence model generated oscillating weight graphs that have been frequently observed in weight-loss studies. The model showed that a 6-mo weight-loss plateau can be attained despite what can be considered as high diet adherence. The model was programmed as a downloadable application.

CONCLUSIONS:
An intermittent lack of diet adherence, not metabolic adaptation, is a major contributor to the frequently observed early weight-loss plateau. The new weight-loss prediction software, which incorporates an intermittent lack of adherence, can be used to guide and inform patients on realistic levels of adherence on the basis of patient lifestyle.
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Re: The 'setpoint' theory in action

Postby frozenveg » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:56 am

Oh yeah! Math tells the truth every time! So it's not that your metabolism has slowed down due to your dieting, but that your weight loss has slowed due to your NOT dieting consistently! It's the food! Oh, yes--and moving around more.
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