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On Fontana study in progress (meal size variation)

Postby GeoffreyLevens » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:19 pm

Fontana did mention a study already in progress, which I think is very interesting, and that is the one I mentioned in my post on his talk. He is feeding people the exact same diet in 3 meals of 980, 640 and 190 and switching the order up the meals in the two groups. So for one group it is 980/640/190 and in the other it is 190/640/980 and he is seeing an impact. However, this is not about weight. It is being done in women with IR, PCOS and Hyperandrogenism and the outcomes he is studying is not the impact on weight but the influence on glucose, insulin, AUG and testosterone.

If it is permissible for you to say (since study not yet complete) I would love to know what he is seeing, which timing is more favorable for the markers being measured.

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Re: On Fontana study in progress (meal size variation)

Postby JeffN » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:27 pm

GeoffreyLevens wrote:
Fontana did mention a study already in progress, which I think is very interesting, and that is the one I mentioned in my post on his talk. He is feeding people the exact same diet in 3 meals of 980, 640 and 190 and switching the order up of the meals in the two groups. So for one group it is 980/640/190 and in the other it is 190/640/980 and he is seeing an impact. However, this is not about weight. It is being done in women with IR, PCOS and Hyperandrogenism and the outcomes he is studying is not the impact on weight but the influence on glucose, insulin, AUG and testosterone.

If it is permissible for you to say (since study not yet complete) I would love to know what he is seeing, which timing is more favorable for the markers being measured.

Thank you!


He said it in his presentation

The group that was doing 980/640/190 was seeing significant benefits in glucose, insulin & AUC. The only exact one he mentioned was that testosterone was decreased over 50% which is a big issue for women with PCOS. He showed a slide with a graph of the others so I'll check & see if I can get anything from it.


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Re: On Fontana study in progress (meal size variation)

Postby GeoffreyLevens » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:40 pm

Thank you. Interesting to me is that Buddhist monks for a couple thousand years have traditionally been only eating before noon; not exactly the same but close-ish
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Re: On Fontana study in progress (meal size variation)

Postby JeffN » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:48 pm

GeoffreyLevens wrote:Thank you. Interesting to me is that Buddhist monks for a couple thousand years have traditionally been only eating before noon; not exactly the same but close-ish


The 7th day Adventist health programs, (at least the ones I am familiar with), also advocate this making breakfast the biggest meal, lunch medium and dinner, if included, a light meal. They say, "“Eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and supper like a pauper.”

What fascinates me about this is that for many many years in the natural health world, and especially in Natural Hygiene, many of the followers practiced a No-Breakfast plan, which I have written about in these forums.

Now, the study is only in women with PCOS so the hormonal benefit to them may not pan out in people like you or more but it will be interesting to see the results.

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Re: On Fontana study in progress (meal size variation)

Postby JeffN » Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:51 pm

Fontana was referencing a study that was already done.

Here is the one he discussed...

Effects of caloric intake timing on insulin resistance and hyperandrogenism in lean women with polycystic ovary syndrome.
Clin Sci (Lond). 2013 Nov;125(9):423-32. doi: 10.1042/CS20130071.

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http://www.clinsci.org/content/125/9/423.full-text.pdf

Abstract
In women with PCOS (polycystic ovary syndrome), hyperinsulinaemia stimulates ovarian cytochrome P450c17α activity that, in turn, stimulates ovarian androgen production. Our objective was to compare whether timed caloric intake differentially influences insulin resistance and hyperandrogenism in lean PCOS women. A total of 60 lean PCOS women [BMI (body mass index), 23.7±0.2 kg/m²] were randomized into two isocaloric (~1800 kcal; where 1 kcal≈4.184 J) maintenance diets with different meal timing distribution: a BF (breakfast diet) (980 kcal breakfast, 640 kcal lunch and 190 kcal dinner) or a D (dinner diet) group (190 kcal breakfast, 640 kcal lunch and 980 kcal dinner) for 90 days. In the BF group, a significant decrease was observed in both AUC(glucose) (glucose area under the curve) and AUC(insulin) (insulin area under the curve) by 7 and 54% respectively. In the BF group, free testosterone decreased by 50% and SHBG (sex hormone-binding globulin) increased by 105%. GnRH (gonadotropin-releasing hormone)-stimulated peak serum 17OHP (17α-hydroxyprogesterone) decreased by 39%. No change in these parameters was observed in the D group. In addition, women in the BF group had an increased ovulation rate. In lean PCOS women, a high caloric intake at breakfast with reduced intake at dinner results in improved insulin sensitivity indices and reduced cytochrome P450c17α activity, which ameliorates hyperandrogenism and improves ovulation rate. Meal timing and distribution should be considered as a therapeutic option for women with PCOS. PMID: 23688334



And here is another similar one by the same author

High caloric intake at breakfast vs. dinner differentially influences weight loss of overweight and obese women.
Obesity (Silver Spring). 2013 Dec;21(12):2504-12. doi: 10.1002/oby.20460. Epub 2013 Jul 2.

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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 20460/epdf

Abstract

OBJECTIVE:
Few studies examined the association between time-of-day of nutrient intake and the metabolic syndrome. Our goal was to compare a weight loss diet with high caloric intake during breakfast to an isocaloric diet with high caloric intake at dinner.

DESIGN AND METHODS:
Overweight and obese women (BMI 32.4 ± 1.8 kg/m(2) ) with metabolic syndrome were randomized into two isocaloric (~1400 kcal) weight loss groups, a breakfast (BF) (700 kcal breakfast, 500 kcal lunch, 200 kcal dinner) or a dinner (D) group (200 kcal breakfast, 500 kcal lunch, 700 kcal dinner) for 12 weeks.

RESULTS:
The BF group showed greater weight loss and waist circumference reduction. Although fasting glucose, insulin, and ghrelin were reduced in both groups, fasting glucose, insulin, and HOMA-IR decreased significantly to a greater extent in the BF group. Mean triglyceride levels decreased by 33.6% in the BF group, but increased by 14.6% in the D group. Oral glucose tolerance test led to a greater decrease of glucose and insulin in the BF group. In response to meal challenges, the overall daily glucose, insulin, ghrelin, and mean hunger scores were significantly lower, whereas mean satiety scores were significantly higher in the BF group.

CONCLUSIONS:
High-calorie breakfast with reduced intake at dinner is beneficial and might be a useful alternative for the management of obesity and metabolic syndrome.



And more


Morning meal more efficient for fat loss in a 3-month lifestyle intervention
J Am Coll Nutr. 2014;33(3):198-205. doi: 10.1080/07315724.2013.863169. Epub 2014 May 8.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24809437

Abstract

OBJECTIVE:
To evaluate the effects of 2 low-calorie diets but with different distributions of calories throughout the day on weight loss and other major obesity-related metabolic parameters.

METHODS:
We randomly assigned 42 nonsmoking homemakers (age = 46.3 ± 2.3 years, body mass index [BMI] = 35.7 ± 0.8 kg/m(2), mean ± SD) in 2 groups of 21 subjects (G1 and G2). The participants underwent a 3 month individualized Mediterranean-style diet (55% carbohydrate, 30% fat, 15% protein and fiber > 30 g), calorie (600 kcal daily deficit compared to the total energy expenditure measured by a metabolic Holter). Diets consisted of the same food and complied with cardiovascular disease prevention guidelines but differed in the distribution of calories throughout the day (G1: 70% breakfast, morning snack, lunch and 30% afternoon snack and dinner; G2: 55 breakfast, morning snack, lunch and 45% afternoon snack and dinner). Dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry was used for pre- and postintervention body composition assessment.

RESULTS:
Thirty-six subjects completed the study (G1 = 18, G2 = 18). Both groups had significant improvements in body composition and metabolic parameters but G1 had enhanced results for weight loss (G1: -8.2 ± 3.0 kg; G2: -6.5 ± 3.4 kg; p = 0.028), waist circumference reduction (G1: -7 ± 0.6 cm; G2: -5 ± 0.3 cm; p = 0.033), and fat mass loss (G1: -6.8 ± 2.1 kg, G2: -4.5 ± 2.9 kg, p = 0.031; mean ± SD). Improvements were detected in both groups for blood pressure and blood and lipid parameters. G1 subjects showed a greater improvement in insulin sensitivity measured by homeostasis model assessment-estimated insulin resistance (G1: -1.37 ± 0.27, G2: -0.74 ± 0.12, p = 0.017).

CONCLUSIONS:
These data suggest that a low-calorie Mediterranean diet with a higher amount of calories in the first part of the day could establish a greater reduction in fat mass and improved insulin sensitivity than a typical daily diet.



Timing of food intake predicts weight loss effectiveness
Int J Obes (Lond). 2013 Apr;37(4):604-11. doi: 10.1038/ijo.2012.229. Epub 2013 Jan 29.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3756673/

BACKGROUND: There is emerging literature demonstrating a relationship between the timing of feeding and weight regulation in animals. However, whether the timing of food intake influences the success of a weight-loss diet in humans is unknown.

OBJECTIVE: To evaluate the role of food timing in weight-loss effectiveness in a sample of 420 individuals who followed a 20-week weight-loss treatment.

METHODS: Participants (49.5% female subjects; age (mean±s.d.): 42±11 years; BMI: 31.4±5.4 kg m 2) were grouped in early eaters and late eaters, according to the timing of the main meal (lunch in this Mediterranean population). 51% of the subjects were early eaters and 49% were late eaters (lunch time before and after 1500 hours, respectively), energy intake and expenditure, appetite hormones, CLOCK genotype, sleep duration and chronotype were studied.

RESULTS: Late lunch eaters lost less weight and displayed a slower weight-loss rate during the 20 weeks of treatment than early eaters (P 1⁄4 0.002). Surprisingly, energy intake, dietary composition, estimated energy expenditure, appetite hormones and sleep duration was similar between both groups. Nevertheless, late eaters were more evening types, had less energetic breakfasts and skipped breakfast more frequently that early eaters (all; Po0.05). CLOCK rs4580704 single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) associated with the timing of the main meal (P 1⁄4 0.015) with a higher frequency of minor allele (C) carriers among the late eaters (P 1⁄4 0.041). Neither sleep duration, nor CLOCK SNPs or morning/evening chronotype was independently associated with weight loss (all; P40.05).

CONCLUSIONS: Eating late may influence the success of weight-loss therapy. Novel therapeutic strategies should incorporate not only the caloric intake and macronutrient distribution—as is classically done—but also the timing of food.



Meal timing and composition influence ghrelin levels, appetite scores and weight loss maintenance in overweight and obese adults
Volume 77, Issue 4, 10 March 2012, Pages 323-331
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Abstract
Background
Although dietary restriction often results in initial weight loss, the majority of obese dieters fail to maintain their reduced weight. Diet-induced weight loss results in compensatory increase of hunger, craving and decreased ghrelin suppression that encourage weight regain. A high protein and carbohydrate breakfast may overcome these compensatory changes and prevent obesity relapse.

Methods
In this study 193 obese (BMI 32.2 ± 1.0 kg/m2), sedentary non diabetic adult men and women (47 ± 7 years) were randomized to a low carbohydrate breakfast (LCb) or an isocaloric diet with high carbohydrate and protein breakfast (HCPb). Anthropometric measures were assessed every 4 weeks. Fasting glucose, insulin, ghrelin, lipids, craving scores and breakfast meal challenge assessing hunger, satiety, insulin and ghrelin responses, were performed at baseline, after a Diet Intervention Period (Week 16) and after a Follow-up Period (Week 32).

Results
At Week 16, groups exhibited similar weight loss: 15.1 ± 1.9 kg in LCb group vs. 13.5 ± 2.3 kg in HCPb group, p = 0.11. From Week 16 to Week 32, LCb group regained 11.6 ± 2.6 kg, while the HCPb group lost additional 6.9 ± 1.7 kg. Ghrelin levels were reduced after breakfast by 45.2% and 29.5% following the HCPb and LCb, respectively. Satiety was significantly improved and hunger and craving scores significantly reduced in the HCPb group vs. the LCb group.

Conclusion
A high carbohydrate and protein breakfast may prevent weight regain by reducing diet-induced compensatory changes in hunger, cravings and ghrelin suppression. To achieve long-term weight loss, meal timing and macronutrient composition must counteract these compensatory mechanisms which encourage weight regain after weight loss.


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Re: On Fontana study in progress (meal size variation)

Postby GeoffreyLevens » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:04 am

Thank you for sourcing that. Quite interesting for sure.

Even way back, when eating omni-"health food" diet I had extremely high SHBG. Not sure how that would effect this but likely blunt the effects in that realm at least.
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Re: On Fontana study in progress (meal size variation)

Postby JeffN » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:24 am

Is the timing of caloric intake associated with variation in diet-induced thermogenesis and in the metabolic pattern? A randomized cross-over study.
Bo S, Fadda M, Castiglione A, Ciccone G, De Francesco A, Fedele D, Guggino A, Parasiliti Caprino M, Ferrara S, Vezio Boggio M, Mengozzi G, Ghigo E, Maccario M, Broglio F.
Int J Obes (Lond). 2015 Dec;39(12):1689-95. doi: 10.1038/ijo.2015.138. Epub 2015 Jul 29.
PMID: 26219416
http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v39/n ... 5138a.html
http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v39/n ... 15138a.pdf

Abstract

BACKGROUND/OBJECTIVES:

Food-induced thermogenesis is generally reported to be higher in the morning, although contrasting results exist because of differences in experimental settings related to the preceding fasting, exercise, sleeping and dieting. To definitively answer to this issue, we compared the calorimetric and metabolic responses to identical meals consumed at 0800 hours and at 2000 hours by healthy volunteers, after standardized diet, physical activity, duration of fast and resting.

SUBJECTS/METHODS:

Twenty subjects (age range 20-35 years, body mass index=19-26 kg m(-)(2)) were enrolled to a randomized cross-over trial. They randomly received the same standard meal in the morning and, 7 days after, in the evening, or vice versa. A 30-min basal calorimetry was performed; a further 60-min calorimetry was done 120-min after the beginning of the meal. Blood samples were drawn every 30-min for 180-min. General linear models, adjusted for period and carry-over, were used to evaluate the 'morning effect', that is, the difference of morning delta (after-meal minus fasting values) minus evening delta (after-meal minus fasting values) of the variables.

RESULTS:

Fasting resting metabolic rate (RMR) did not change from morning to evening; after-meal RMR values were significantly higher after the morning meal (1916; 95% confidence interval (CI)=1792, 2041 vs 1756; 1648, 1863 kcal; P<0.001). RMR was significantly increased after the morning meal (90.5; 95% CI=40.4, 140.6 kcal; P<0.001), whereas differences in areas-under-the-curve for glucose (-1800; -2564,-1036 mg dl(-1) × h, P<0.001), log-insulin (-0.19; -0.30,-0.07 µU ml(-1) × h; P=0.001) and fatty free acid concentrations (-16.1;-30.0,-2.09 mmol l(-1) × h; P=0.024) were significantly lower. Delayed and larger increases in glucose and insulin concentrations were found after the evening meals.

CONCLUSIONS:

The same meal consumed in the evening determined a lower RMR, and increased glycemic/insulinemic responses, suggesting circadian variations in the energy expenditure and metabolic pattern of healthy individuals. The timing of meals should probably be considered when nutritional recommendations are given.
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