by JeffN » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:22 pm
Greetings,
I appreciate your efforts and the point you are trying to make. In addition, I am glad to see you using the CRON-O-Meter to see the actual numbers and to make your comparisons.
While there are some fruits that are higher in nutrient density, to me, there are some clear nutrient differences that are significant and favor the starchy vegetables over the fruit.
As with those who encourage higher consumptions of nuts, those diets can also still be nutrient dense and be shown to meet the nutrient requirements, though with some clear nutrient differences that are significant and again, favor the starchy vegetables over the nuts as I have pointed out in this forum.
In addition, as with those advocating the higher fat/nut based diet, unlike the guidelines and principles recommended here...
1) there is little to any published evidence documenting the safety of such an approach and several studies have raised some concerns about the safety of it. In regard to the high fruit diet this includes dental erosion's, Hcy levels, TG's, AGEs all of which have been discussed in this forum.
2) there is no evidence of any human population anywhere, who are successfully following and/or have successfully followed such a diet, to show its safety. A few anecdotal stories that may be popular and receive wide circulation on the internet, most all from the promoter's of the diet, are not evidence.
3) an evaluation of all the long lived populations show none of them consume anything similar and fruit consumption is actually quite low amongst them.
In explaining your understanding of the program, you seem to be very clear on what "no animal products" means but not as clear on what "starch based" means. There are reasons why this is clearly a starch based diet and not a fruit based diet as I have shared in this thread, nor is a fruit based diet recommended or said to be equally interchangeable.
However, as I said earlier in the thread...
"I have absolutely no problem with anyone following a 100% raw diet if they wanted to and have several clients who do. However, for optimal health, their diet must provide the essentials, meet the nutritional requirements of the human body, and avoid any harmful components of the diet."
I encourage you to continue your efforts and if you feel so led, to actually go on the fruit based 80/10/10 rv diet for several months to see how you do and let us know. In my own experience working with many others over the two decades, few, if any at all, are truly successful at it.
Having said that, approaching it from the perspective you are, and actually trying to see what it takes to make it nutrient dense and meet all the nutrient requirements of the human body, and what foods must be included and/or avoided is the most intelligent way to do so.
In Health
Jeff