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Re: need some help

Postby petefromlondon » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:43 pm

yes this makes sense, i remember when just stating with this eating rice and banana for breakfast and rice and chickpeas for a week and dropping some weight but it all stopped when going out for a meal or socialising over dinner. I need to rearrange my priorities and just smash it. Being good to myself and a good example will help others as actions speak louder than words.

GeoffreyLevens wrote:3 months is a heck of a long time for someone struggling w/ addiction but really a couple weeks, even one week, will go a long ways toward resetting your taste buds and brain expectations. If you can make that long, it will get much easier from there. The thing is, even one bite for most people, a very small one, resets your taste back to the addictive stuff so you need to be 100% away from it for a bit before the cravings start to fade and then be vigilant even once it gets easier. I guess I am advocating more of the "one day at a time" approach so as not to get overwhelmed by the prospect. I does need to be done though; no way around it. I have never heard of any shortcuts other than the monodiets (like only potatoes or probably better, Mary's Mini) or water fasting for a short time.
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Re: need some help

Postby GeoffreyLevens » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:55 pm

petefromlondon wrote:yes this makes sense, i remember when just stating with this eating rice and banana for breakfast and rice and chickpeas for a week and dropping some weight but it all stopped when going out for a meal or socialising over dinner. I need to rearrange my priorities and just smash it. Being good to myself and a good example will help others as actions speak louder than words.

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Re: need some help

Postby dailycarbs » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:35 pm

GeoffreyLevens wrote:3 months is a heck of a long time for someone struggling w/ addiction but really a couple weeks, even one week, will go a long ways toward resetting your taste buds and brain expectations.


I doubt the cravings will stop in a week. That's the point. It's going to take a month or more before someone seriously addicted to fat, salt, sugar and processed food will look at a high pleasure food side by side with a salad plus baked potatoes and say, "They're both tasty. I can afford eat a lot more of the salad and potatoes and it will make me full. I pick the salad and potatoes."

I think that some people take the deprivation angle. "I went for a week on salad and potatoes and avoided the pizza and pb&j sandwiches. I've been good. Hell! I've been great! Pizza and pb&j sandwiches are complaint so bring them on and don't stop until I've had too much. Oh, they were good! You know what would be even better? KFC! That's what!"

If you feel you're being good and eating foods you don't really prefer, it's only a matter of time before the other shoe drops. If you're prone to binging or emotional eating, when that other shoe drops, it doesn't last for a meal or a day. It just keeps going. You're back in the deprivation trap—even when you're being compliant.

The day you eat a non-compliant meal and start craving your McDougall foods instead, that's the day when this is working rock solid and you can really get on with your life without thinking of how to manage your food 24/7. I encourage everyone to find this place. Life is great here on the island. I know that others here will vouch for this so can I get an amen? :D
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Re: need some help

Postby GeoffreyLevens » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:50 pm

dailycarbs wrote:
GeoffreyLevens wrote:3 months is a heck of a long time for someone struggling w/ addiction but really a couple weeks, even one week, will go a long ways toward resetting your taste buds and brain expectations.


I doubt the cravings will stop in a week.

Of course not. But a week or two may be enough of a jump start to make things start to get easier. It takes a long time, in my case, a couple years, for cravings to really vanish, but they will diminish to a much more manageable level of intensity pretty quickly if a person is motivated.
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Re: need some help

Postby petefromlondon » Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:08 pm

yes this is exactly what happened, I gave into all these fancy vegan foods and then next thing that looked good was KFC even though that was against my values, i need simplicity again and to face those demons that want to control me and ignore other peoples demons who do not want me to change and to be a good example because people are responsible for themselves and I am responsible for myself.

SpudFit in fact just did a video on cravings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyZ79GdrcDs



dailycarbs wrote:
GeoffreyLevens wrote:3 months is a heck of a long time for someone struggling w/ addiction but really a couple weeks, even one week, will go a long ways toward resetting your taste buds and brain expectations.


I doubt the cravings will stop in a week. That's the point. It's going to take a month or more before someone seriously addicted to fat, salt, sugar and processed food will look at a high pleasure food side by side with a salad plus baked potatoes and say, "They're both tasty. I can afford eat a lot more of the salad and potatoes and it will make me full. I pick the salad and potatoes."

I think that some people take the deprivation angle. "I went for a week on salad and potatoes and avoided the pizza and pb&j sandwiches. I've been good. Hell! I've been great! Pizza and pb&j sandwiches are complaint so bring them on and don't stop until I've had too much. Oh, they were good! You know what would be even better? KFC! That's what!"

If you feel you're being good and eating foods you don't really prefer, it's only a matter of time before the other shoe drops. If you're prone to binging or emotional eating, when that other shoe drops, it doesn't last for a meal or a day. It just keeps going. You're back in the deprivation trap—even when you're being compliant.

The day you eat a non-compliant meal and start craving your McDougall foods instead, that's the day when this is working rock solid and you can really get on with your life without thinking of how to manage your food 24/7. I encourage everyone to find this place. Life is great here on the island. I know that others here will vouch for this so can I get an amen? :D
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