vegan youtube drama

[AlwaysAgnes]

The thing to remember is that what's good for the goose is good for the gander. People celebrating someone's banning could easily find themselves to be the next target.

In this case Norvegan would likely be just fine with that. He's self-admittedly on a mission to avenge Durianrider's abuse of his girlfriend, and continued online abuse of both of them since the incident, which took place before she and Norvegan got together. Norvegan doesn't depend on Youtube for his livelihood and says he'll be happy to be done with DR and Youtube when he's finished.

To your point, though, Vegan Cheetah might take a look in the mirror. He has had his channel taken down before, yet he seemed to be cheering on Freelee's channel to get taken down (DR has blamed her, and everyone else for his current troubles).

I don't really follow any of them or take any of them seriously enough to try to make sense of their personal dramas. That said, I don't think someone would need to be on Youtube in order for karma to find him.

Another thing that I find annoying is sponsored videos, which I seem to be seeing more and more lately. Whenever a youtuber starts off with "I've teamed up with..." or "This video is being sponsored by..." I start looking for the fast forward key or the exit button. Then there's the patreon stuff....

[sirdle]

Whenever a youtuber starts off with "I've teamed up with..." or "This video is being sponsored by..." I start looking for the fast forward key or the exit button. Then there's the patreon stuff....

I refuse to watch advertising... YouTube, websites, TV...

[bbq]

As the plot thickens:



Proof My Youtube Account Was Hacked By My Crazy Ex & Her Ex Con Brother
http://youtu.be/ZRtq9vQHeK0

That reminded me how my Gmail account was somehow "borrowed" to sign up for brand new accounts on so many different sites. Sometimes those accounts could be created without having to confirm them after they're being registered, that's so dumb since anyone could do that with any kinda e-mail accounts they want.

Too bad, even a YouTuber with tons of views wouldn't get this kinda royal treatment:

Google launches advanced Gmail security features for high-risk users
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-google-cyber/google-launches-advanced-gmail-security-features-for-high-risk-users-idUSKBN1CM1GP

No wonder they've gotta diversify the source of their incomes by offering extra contents on other platforms such as Patreon these days, YouTube could always demonetize anything at will without bothering to plain why it's happening:

Casey Neistat: ‘YouTube Doesn’t Do Enough To Take Care Of Creator Community’
http://www.imdb.com/news/ni61625816/

Why YouTube’s biggest stars keep quitting
https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/29/13776894/pewdiepie-quit-casey-neistat-vlog-youtube-vloggers

The Real Reason YouTubers Are Leaving For Twitch
https://nowloading.co/p/the-real-reason-youtubers-are-leaving-for-twitch/4159102

Why YouTubers are losing so much ad money (and how they can survive the crunch)
https://www.polygon.com/2017/5/10/15609660/youtube-youtuber-ad-money-google

[Risto]

Proof My Youtube Account Was Hacked By My Crazy Ex & Her Ex Con Brother
http://youtu.be/ZRtq9vQHeK0

Notice how there's no proof of anything in that. It's simply a Google support person receiving DR's complaint, and acknowledging that spam from bots would be grounds for terminating the channel. I don't think the support person even confirms that there were bots in this case (spam and artificial views can be generated otherwise, too), and he says nothing at all about anyone hacking anyone's account. That's all DR telling a story to the support person. And in any case, Google apparently states the reason for a termination in a message to the user when they do it, so DR should have received a statement of the reasons in the first place. He hasn't shown that and if he claims he didn't get one, I wouldn't trust his word in the least. This is all just more manipulation from DR.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if there were bots bought by DR to boost his views. The numbers did look high considering what was going on in the community.

[bbq]

Come on, "all" titles on YouTube are "supposedly" as clickbaity as humanly possible. That's pretty much like one of those sensational headlines after whatever studies were posted on medical journals.

Seriously, what if their Internal Team were actually able to figure out who's working behind the scenes? Now I wonder whatever the heck I do apologize as it appears that channel was suspended due to spam would really mean. What's taking Google so long to suspend all of his active channels while sparing this particular one from September 2010?

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/therawvoice

[Risto]

Seriously, what if their Internal Team were actually able to figure out who's working behind the scenes?

Well, Norvegan has effectively claimed credit for getting DR's channel taken down. He has filed complaints about him before to Youtube, and vice versa. None of that seems to be particularly behind the scenes.

Now I wonder whatever the heck I do apologize as it appears that channel was suspended due to spam would really mean. What's taking Google so long to suspend all of his active channels while sparing this particular one from September 2010?

My impression of it was that DR got a message from Google when the channel was shut down. Then he contacted this support person on chat, and the support person looks up what Google's records accessible to him say about the situation, and apparently they say "spam". The support person sitting at his keyboard probably can't immediately get all the details about DRs whole history with them, such as someone like Norvegan actually delivering a complaint in person to Youtube/Google, never mind allegations of sexual abuse of other Youtubers, so he replies that he needs to forward the question in the organization.

Also, Google/Youtube are infamous for automating the management of these things almost entirely. There are likely very few human eyes there looking at any of this, which leads to things like only the channels or videos flagged for spam/whatever offense getting taken down, and the unflagged ones from the same user remaining up, even if they contain much the same stuff. Looks like in this case, though, the channel that remained only had pretty straightforward cycling tips and suchlike on it, so they didn't take it down and DR renamed the channel, and started posting non-cycling stuff on it.

[bbq]

Or there's yet another possibility, those bots weren't instructed to spam that particular channel because nobody could tell that's created by Harley Johnstone:

DADDY'S BACK!!
https://twitter.com/DURIANRIDERS/status/921252967512248320

Let's see if that were going anywhere again, he didn't seem to have lost much money for a few days:

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/durianriders