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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby bbq » Mon May 29, 2017 5:27 am

Risto wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5q8RFpkAyM

Usually I would watch everything on YouTube with "Watch with MPV" as follows:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/watch-with-mpv/

Google Chrome flavor might not be very useful, though:

https://github.com/agiz/youtube-mpv
https://github.com/marhag87/chrome-youtube-mpv

BTW, I guess that Heart Attack Grill would be kinda like this stuff?

http://youtu.be/J3Mxqe_ffZs

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"ONLY" 20K for one meal? LOL

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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Risto » Mon May 29, 2017 6:52 am

bbq wrote:BTW, I guess that Heart Attack Grill would be kinda like this stuff?


Apparently that's the same concept: if you don't finish your food, you get spanked, which both Nikocado and his friend (who weighs 400 pounds and therefore got her food for free) did.

The menu says "Plus 8.1 % sales tax for our wasteful government to squander" - mostly on treating diabetes, I guess... Notice also the vegan option, which is cigarettes.

Just saw that Nikocado's companion on that trip, Hungry Fat Chick, posted a video on her channel saying that her doctor put her on a program to lose 50 of her 400 pounds in three months, so that she'd be eligible for bariatric surgery. She tells us she has a couple of mukbangs to do before she gets started, though. First things first.

Nikocado has certainly come a long way from once interviewing Dr. McDougall on his channel.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby bbq » Mon May 29, 2017 12:26 pm

Back in 2014 there's actually this TV show called 7 Deadly Sins with the "star" of Super Size Me Morgan Spurlock, the very first episode was called "Gluttony" and here's a preview of the part with Heart Attack Grill:

http://youtu.be/Atid8D8AZu4

Full episode if you dare to watch:

https://openload.co/embed/DxkJ9CV5qLA/
https://openload.co/embed/w5OJwGio1g4/

It's so disturbing to watch the interview when they're filming a funeral home, the size of those caskets / coffins seemed to be increasing for obvious reasons.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Jeff the Chef » Mon May 29, 2017 7:17 pm

bbq wrote:It's just wicked funny, someone's cell phone AND landline were getting spammed as well:

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#VEGANDRAMA Eisel's Wife Tells ALL
http://youtu.be/gE9FT1xmRtE

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Wow! All of this for what you don't put in your mouth? Apparently a lot of nonsense comes out of it.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Risto » Mon May 29, 2017 7:23 pm

bbq wrote:Full episode if you dare to watch:


Thanks for that. It is disturbing stuff.

Jon Basso, the founder of Heart Attack Grill, actually makes sense in a perverse and probably amoral way. He says that the death of the obese spokesman for his restaurant caused him to take "absolutely no" pause. I think he's putting on a show when he says that, but even so, that's quite a statement. He's basically saying that he helped the guy to eat himself to death when he knew better, and has no second thoughts about it, supposedly. As disturbing as that is, he actually has a very clear point: everybody knows better, yet so many people continue self-destruct. The clip shows a guy with scars from open-heart surgery eating a "bypass burger" at the restaurant. Nikocado's friend is morbidly obese, and stuffing the same in her face there.

On the other hand, does exposing this behavior as self-destructive in this incredibly graphic way change anything? I'd say no. It's basically a freakshow that doesn't teach people anything about changing their diet and lifestyle. Everybody knows that smoking, alcohol and greasy burgers are bad, but that doesn't get you very far when there's so much conflicting advice on what's good.

I was wondering if the Heart Attack Grill has been sued. They've had several people actually suffer a heart attack on the premises, and two of their obese spokespersons die. I guess Basso's "message", as he keeps calling it, makes perverse sense also in that if his business gets sued for causing heart attacks, what about McDonald's and the rest of them? They're serving the same stuff, just in somwhat less insane portions.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby bbq » Tue May 30, 2017 4:23 am

Risto wrote:I was wondering if the Heart Attack Grill has been sued. They've had several people actually suffer a heart attack on the premises, and two of their obese spokespersons die.

Basso ain't clueless or anything like that and he definitely knew what he's doing:

BBC NEWS | Americas | US approves 'Cheeseburger bill'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3500388.stm

Efforts to Immunize Food Manufacturers from Obesity-Related Lawsuits: A Challenge for Public Health - Corporations and Health
http://www.corporationsandhealth.org/2011/08/17/efforts-to-immunize-food-manufacturers-from-obesity-related-lawsuits-a-challenge-for-public-health/

H.R. 339 - Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act
http://democrats.rules.house.gov/rules/hr-339-personal-responsibility-food-consumption-act

H.R.554 - 109th Congress (2005-2006): Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act of 2005
https://www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/house-bill/554

Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act of 2005: Report Together with Additional and Dissenting Views
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CRPT-109hrpt130/pdf/CRPT-109hrpt130.pdf

That's exactly why Basso would mention "legal but lethal" in 7 Deadly Sins simply because anyone could sell any junk they want in USSA (LOL) with full immunity. Tobacco industry paid the price for what they did back then so nobody would make the same mistake again whenever they wanna sell junk to the public.

The making of La Belle et La Boeuf Epic burger!
http://youtu.be/AVSZMxlkFbU

It's truly disgusting to see how that stupid La Belle et La Boeuf "Epic" burger was made in the kitchen, that's genuinely WAY beyond gross if you ask me.

Basso even had the audacity to claim how "cheap" those burgers seemed to be since 20,000 calories would only cost less than 30 bucks. It's just a matter of externalizing the costs to the environment and ultimately the healthcare costs would only skyrocket with no end in sight. Plenty of deaths are supposedly preventable while anyone could sell any junk they want with absolutely no consequences whatsoever.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby enlightened » Tue May 30, 2017 10:42 pm

ENOUGH ALREADY, SO BORING!
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby katgirl55 » Wed May 31, 2017 11:57 am

Heart Attack Grill should not be sued. Alcoholics and lung cancer patients do not sue the liquor stores and bars where they indulged in their vices when they get sick. Education is the best way to help people.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Risto » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:03 pm

A youtuber named Norvegan has put together two long videos (and counting) about Durianrider's abusive behavior: part 1, part 2. Norvegan calls Durianrider a pathological narcissist and connects a lot of dots between his behavior and narcissistic personality disorder. I'm unfortunate enough to have had some first-hand experience of a NPD case in my own life, and I'd guessed as much about Durianrider, but I wasn't aware of many of the incidents that Norvegan references because I haven't been following these things. Durianrider's track record looks pretty horrific when it's compiled like that. Click if you have an interest in learning to recognize pathological narcissism (I suppose not much need at this point in the current US presidency), do not click if you don't want to see the worst of the vegan drama s---show.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby bbq » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:32 am

Vegan Cheetah explains why NEW GIRL IS AN ANGEL & EX IS A SLEW
http://youtu.be/DHfz2gCUwMM

Vegan Cheetah ABUSES Girlfriend
http://youtu.be/E3lxpwmj3Zc

VeganCheetah Abused His Girlfriend
http://youtu.be/UoNqGmV-mOg

The prince and the princess lived happily ever after.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Risto » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:40 am

Norvegan apparently managed to get Youtube to shut down Durianrider's channel... by paying Youtube headquarters a visit, no less: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bStcxvXI3M
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby AlwaysAgnes » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:26 pm

Risto wrote:Norvegan apparently managed to get Youtube to shut down Durianrider's channel... by paying Youtube headquarters a visit, no less: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bStcxvXI3M



Hmmm. Apparently Youtube has recently changed its Terms of Service.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScnGS5qtDAw
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Risto » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:28 pm

AlwaysAgnes wrote:Apparently Youtube has recently changed its Terms of Service.


Maybe so, but I wouldn't take Charles Marlowe's aka Vegan Cheetah's word for it, or anything else. From what (little) I've seen, he's frequently just making stuff up from whole cloth for views.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby AlwaysAgnes » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:51 pm

Risto wrote:
AlwaysAgnes wrote:Apparently Youtube has recently changed its Terms of Service.


Maybe so, but I wouldn't take Charles Marlowe's aka Vegan Cheetah's word for it, or anything else. From what (little) I've seen, he's frequently just making stuff up from whole cloth for views.



I don't know anything about Marlowe or most of the vegan drama queens, but it does appear TOS at youtube has changed in the past year.

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/commen ... s_changes/
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802268?hl=en
https://www.change.org/p/youtube-youtub ... -youtubers

The thing to remember is that what's good for the goose is good for the gander. People celebrating someone's banning could easily find themselves to be the next target. That ball might never stop rolling.

Public celebrations of someone else's misfortune are just ugly bad juju. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Risto » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:02 pm

AlwaysAgnes wrote:The thing to remember is that what's good for the goose is good for the gander. People celebrating someone's banning could easily find themselves to be the next target.


In this case Norvegan would likely be just fine with that. He's self-admittedly on a mission to avenge Durianrider's abuse of his girlfriend, and continued online abuse of both of them since the incident, which took place before she and Norvegan got together. Norvegan doesn't depend on Youtube for his livelihood and says he'll be happy to be done with DR and Youtube when he's finished.

To your point, though, Vegan Cheetah might take a look in the mirror. He has had his channel taken down before, yet he seemed to be cheering on Freelee's channel to get taken down (DR has blamed her, and everyone else for his current troubles).
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