HH's 1200 calories

[Melinda]

Dreena Burton has fabulous recipes and it's also easy to skip the oil.

[colonyofcells]

1,200 calories is probably too low for many people and could result in deficiencies in some micronutrients.

[Jumpstart]

Many folks on this board on MWL run around the 1200 calorie range and don't seem to have a problem with micros.

[eXtremE]

Yeah, isn't MWL what HH is doing? Essentially, it is nothing more calorie restriction but still eating WFPB.

[CarrotTopsRGreen]

If she thinks she looks great and is happy, OK by me - I just don't like her in essence badmouthing the PB doctors who inspired her in the first place, with her implications that they were somehow the cause of her overeating. What she described was a binge, pure and simple, and almost anyone would gain weight eating that way, oil or no oil. I'm not even sure I believe her - since it is in her best interests to make everyone believe that they need to pay for meal plans in order to lose weight. I looked at her FB page and her blog and every other post is "Buy my books! Buy my meal plans! Hurry - we're having a sale and you don't want to miss out!"

I have written my own meal plans in the past and they are not rocket science once you understand your needs. I can't imagine paying someone well over $100 to figure out something so simple.

[eXtremE]

Yeah, LOL! No way would I pay someone money when I can do it myself for free. Americans will buy into anything if the seller is persuasive enough.

[colonyofcells]

1,200 calorie diet is probably safe (probably safer than a water fast) for overweight people altho it might not be safe for people who are already super skinny.
Being a volume eater is probably not a problem as long as you eat only unrefined vegan foods. I can eat a gorilla giant bowl of boiled pinto beans, many corn tortillas sliced with a spoon and raw nopal cactus. After that, I will go for a long walk. I believe Dr Mcdougall has some limits on beans altho it can't be found in the book Starch Solution except for maybe the warning on too much protein. I will probaby enjoy being a volume eater of fruits, avocado, durian like an orangutan altho I can't afford it.

[VeganGypsy]

FYI: Happy Herbivore is tweaking her meal plans, dropping the 1,200 calorie focus because so many people had an issue with it. The new plans roll out next week.

I personally can only lose weight when keeping my calories between 1,200 - 1,500 per day, but I'm only 5'2" and supposed to be petite.

[winter]

So very tired of all these "gurus":

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[bethannerickson]

Personally, I've stayed out of the body image/anorexia discussions. She looks fine in either pic to me. It's her choice as to what she prefers. I don't really understand how people can jump to all sorts of conclusions about people being anorexic. Anorexia is an eating disorder and although eventually an anorexic will look the part, the eating disorder is what causes the results. Lumping thin people in with anorexics is bizarre.

Now as to her reported eating habits, I think there are some signs of trouble, based on her own reporting. But there is not enough info there to know for sure. What chaps my hide is as follows:

1. She's an expert in nothing, yet she is giving definitive and authoritative health and nutrition advice to many followers (a la Jimmy Moore).
2. She's convinced that her reality translates to hundreds or thousands of followers' realities and that they should do the same. At least that's the sort of authority she projects in that blog post.
3. She gives very strange advice and it could promote eating disorders in susceptible minions. Buying jeans, never washing them, and using them for weight control because the "scale does not work" is pure quackery!
4. She implies Dr. McDougall was the cause (at least in part) of her own, self-reported, personal fail.
5. She confuses being thin with tattoos as proof of something. It is not. Any fool can do it. Look at me. I'm thin. I just need to get some tattoos and start a blog but if I tried to present at a McDougall ASW weekend I'd be laughed off the stage (and rightly so) because I am no expert in anything health or nutrition. And guess what? Neither is she!

I wish people had the good sense to separate the wheat from the chaff (see what I did there? ). We have solid people providing fantastic advice and support. Don't run with the dingbats lest you turn into one yourself.

*Edit: Lindsay and I just had a very kind Facebook conversation and we've ironed out our misunderstanding. I'm a very satisfied former customer, her food plans were very good. I'm leaving this message here as a reminder to always remember to keep the door of communications open. Lindsay responded to my comment with grace and kindness. I very much appreciated that..

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Beth

[Wild4Stars]

So very tired of all these "gurus":

We've all been misled ... I have the answer!!!
Like my video!
Subscribe!
Buy my t-shirts!
Buy my e-book!
For $$$ let me be your nutritional coach!

Give me a break...

I so agree with you. I call them "clones." They take someone else's plans, recipes, ideas and concepts, put a twist on it and then charge a big fee to tell me how to eat. No thanks. I can come right here and get more than I need absolutely free.

[CarrotTopsRGreen]

Personally, I've stayed out of the body image/anorexia discussions. She looks fine in either pic to me. It's her choice as to what she prefers. I don't really understand how people can jump to all sorts of conclusions about people being anorexic. Anorexia is an eating disorder and although eventually an anorexic will look the part, the eating disorder is what causes the results. Lumping thin people in with anorexics is bizarre.

Now as to her reported eating habits, I think there are some signs of trouble, based on her own reporting. But there is not enough info there to know for sure. What chaps my hide is as follows:

1. She's an expert in nothing, yet she is giving definitive and authoritative health and nutrition advice to many followers (a la Jimmy Moore).
2. She's convinced that her reality translates to hundreds or thousands of followers' realities and that they should do the same. At least that's the sort of authority she projects in that blog post.
3. She gives very strange advice and it could promote eating disorders in susceptible minions. Buying jeans, never washing them, and using them for weight control because the "scale does not work" is pure quackery!
4. She implies Dr. McDougall was the cause (at least in part) of her own, self-reported, personal fail.
5. She confuses being thin with tattoos as proof of something. It is not. Any fool can do it. Look at me. I'm thin. I just need to get some tattoos and start a blog but if I tried to present at a McDougall ASW weekend I'd be laughed off the stage (and rightly so) because I am no expert in anything health or nutrition. And guess what? Neither is she!

I wish people had the good sense to separate the wheat from the chaff (see what I did there? ). We have solid people providing fantastic advice and support. Don't run with the dingbats lest you turn into one yourself.

I couldn't have said it better myself. After my cancer diagnosis (after ten years of McDougalling) I joined her meal plans. She kicked me out after I disagreed when she proclaimed that the WFPB diet reverses cancer. I said it didn't. I quoted my oncologist who said, "Anyone can get cancer. You can lower your odds, but you can still get it."

She told me to fire my oncologist. Unbeknownst to her I live in the middle of nowhere and am lucky to even have a cancer specialist. Plus... well... I lived this lifestyle for ten years. Still got my diagnosis. Tumor markers were through the roof on the day of my surgery... that tumor was exceedingly active. I thought it was absurd for her (a cook) to dole out medical advice.

She kicked me out. So much for getting recipe ideas that work with a now quite-short colon.

I can't say I'm a big fan of hers.

Beth

You cannot disagree with her or she throws a hissy fit. If find her to be quite immature, myself. It's either her way or the highway.

[patty]

I couldn't have said it better myself. After my cancer diagnosis (after ten years of McDougalling) I joined her meal plans. She kicked me out after I disagreed when she proclaimed that the WFPB diet reverses cancer. I said it didn't. I quoted my oncologist who said, "Anyone can get cancer. You can lower your odds, but you can still get it."

Beth

So happy you are with us today:)

Aloha, patty

[VeganGypsy]

Deleted because the issue was addressed and resolved privately.

[BlueHeron]

The comments posted that were in opposition to hers, including mine, got immediately deleted. So much for free speech.

It doesn't sound like a good way for her to run her business, but "free speech" is irrelevant here. You don't have free speech on her message board anymore than someone else's free speech would mean the right to paint messages on your house (or for someone else to post pro-paleo messages on this board). The right to free speech means the government can't control your speech. That's it.

Comic about that (offensive language warning):
https://xkcd.com/1357/