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SactoBob wrote:Jeff,To spare you the effort of looking, here was my post in the other thread about this zero fat product. Have I earned my merit badge in label reading, or am I being too hard on this product?
Lindas wrote:what would you recommend for using for mayonaise?
raw curls wrote:I'm the one who started that thread looking for a "fat free" mayo. As it was called in one of the recipes in the 12 day plan on here, for a sandwich spread. It calls for 1/4 cup and makes 4 servings. I'm confused that it would call for "fat free" mayonnaise if all mayo is going to have some fat in it.
Nettie wrote:Nasoya makes a fat-free version of Nayonaise which contains only soymilk (water, org. whole soybeans), cane juice, corn starch, distilled vinegar, salt, xanthan gum, mustard seed, lemon juice concentrate, onion powder, garlic juice, natural flavor, spices.Nettie
debbie wrote:Does this math work for any product or only condiment type stuff?
debbie wrote: I am not good at math, but I really understand this thread for some reason, and now all the stuff I have read/heard from you Jeff now makes sense.
debbie wrote: Is there fat in mustard??
SactoBob wrote:Nettie wrote:Nasoya makes a fat-free version of Nayonaise which contains only soymilk (water, org. whole soybeans), cane juice, corn starch, distilled vinegar, salt, xanthan gum, mustard seed, lemon juice concentrate, onion powder, garlic juice, natural flavor, spices.Nettie
Nettie, the "fat free" Nayonaise is the product that Jeff and I were talking about. The label is quite deceptive IMO. You can read my post above.
JeffN wrote:I appreciate your comments.
Let me clarify what may be a very important issue..
There is not one "McDougall Program" but principles and guidelines that we have to apply based on someones personal health issues and of course, their own lifestyle and preferences. The program always has to be adapted to the individual and their specific situation.
JeffN wrote: It is also important to understand the nature of "scientific discourse". If you put 12 scientists in a room with a recent research paper that they may all agree on the basic premise of, they will come up with 12 similar but somewhat different opinions of the research and how to best apply it.
As, I have also said before...
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"One of the great things about the professional team Dr McDougall has now put together is that all us and all of our individual messages and information supports each other and the bigger picture we all deliver"
This is true, even if we do not agree 100% on everything, as it is what makes us all better at what we do.
JeffN wrote: As I often say here in this forum, my recommendations for most people who have not achieved their health goals yet, is to follow the recommendations of the MWL program. It is not just for weight and it is the most effective program and has the clearest definitions of what is approved and what isn't. All of this is important for anyone who is not where they want to be yet.
JeffN wrote: In addition, the less the use of processed and refined foods, the better. And, most importantly the more the limit (or avoidance) of any food product that should be limited, the better. Many people find that if they do use these products, it becomes difficult for them to limit their use and the use of them encourages their over consumption of other foods that are not in their best interest and therefore, avoiding them in the first place, is their best approach. I hear this time and time again, even in this forum and on these boards.
JeffN wrote: One of the main reasons for not being successful that I listed was ...
"Not understanding the difference between something that is "allowed" on occasion in small quantities, and something that is "recommended."
My personal and professional experience over the last 2 1/2 decades of helping people achieve their health goals is that the simpler and easier they keep the program and its definitions, the better.
Variety vs Simplicity: The Key to Success
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In addition, the less the use of processed and refined foods, the better. And, most importantly the more the limit (or avoidance) of any food product that should be limited, the better. Many people find that if they do use these products, it becomes difficult for them to limit their use and the use of them encourages their over consumption of other foods that are not in their best interest and therefore, avoiding them in the first place, is their best approach.
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