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Yeah, this is also my line of thinking too after reading the link to the article.waingapu wrote:More likely that one or both of these men died of ventricular fibrillation rather than a clot at a narrowing of a artery.
However it is possible that a narrowing at a certain artery sent the heart into ventricular fibrillation even without a complete blockage.
I know someone who survived such a incident....... some 300 yards short of the finish line and medical tent.
Spectators immediately began doing compressions and the medical team was summoned right away.
They restarted the heart, rushed the person to the hospital and cooled him down to 33 degrees,, then induced a coma.
Two days later he awoke with a sound brain and fairly minimal heart muscle damage.
Now, this was a gentleman about age 60 and indeed their was a stenosis, which was then bypassed with single graft.
However no total blockage had taken place. Instead the heart just freaked out and stopped pumping in a effective pattern
Had that incident occurred anywhere except 300 yards from the medical tent, the patient would have died.
It was almost like a miracle of everything working to help him live.
He is back running.
EvanG wrote:If you do the math, you will find out that there is a slightly elevated chance of having a heart attack during a marathon. Lots of people run marathons, so lots have heart attacks during the race. Based on the calculations below, the heart attack rate for an American during a marathon is about 5 times as high as the heart attack rate for the average American not running a race.
The article said that in a 2012 study, 11 million people participated in marathons or half marathons. Of these 59 had heart attacks. Assuming each on takes 3 hrs to complete the race, that is 59/11/3 = 1.8 heart attacks / million people / hr.
Every year about 720,000 Americans have heart attacks. This is out of about 320 million people. Let's assume there are about 225 million people over age 20. That is 225 * 365 * 24 = 1,971,000 million person hours. So 720,000 heart attacks / 1,971,000 million person hrs = 0.37 heart attacks / million person hrs.
waingapu wrote:While I appreciate your efforts on allowing math to bring the real issues into focus, perhaps you ought to lay off the crack when doing the computations
dteresa wrote:Diet first.
didi
Lacey wrote:dteresa wrote:Diet first.
didi
I rarely post just to say I agree, but Amen, Didi.
A few years ago, I was on a cruise ship giving a presentation about my nutrition program and its dramatic results in patients with severe coronary artery disease. Toward the end a man in a straw hat approached me, and near tears, with audible anger in his voice, said, “I’ve been doing everything my doctor told me to, and now I have to have a second bypass. I can’t believe no one told me there was another option!”
That’s the point of this book: to tell the world what I have learned.
Healthiswealth wrote:I have no way of knowing, but in addition to being very saddened by this news, I have to think that neither of them were following this WOE.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/04/14/2-runners-die-near-finish-line-half-marathon-in-north-carolina/
I wish that reporters could investigate their diet without causing the families further pain. It's so sad to think that they undoubtedly thought they were very healthy and then, in the midst of their "proof" of their health, they died.
Autopsies of soldiers during the Korean and Vietnam wars showed the effects of America’s artery-clogging diet even on the very young. The arteries of Asian soldiers were largely clean, free of fatty deposits. But almost 80 percent of American battlefield casualties showed gross evidence of coronary artery disease—clogging and damage that, had the soldiers lived, would have grown worse with every passing decade.4 What’s more, in recent years, researchers have observed that as residents of areas with a low incidence of cardiovascular disease begin to adopt a more Western style of life and diet, the incidence of disease—especially coronary disease—rises dramatically.
waingapu wrote:
While I appreciate your efforts on allowing math to bring the real issues into focus, perhaps you ought to lay off the crack when doing the computations
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Lay off the crack, redo your math, and report back.
(now watch, someone will find my math to be faulty)
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