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JeffN wrote:Dr McDougall
In Search of the Perfect Bowel Movement
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2002nl ... vement.htm
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JeffN wrote:There is no single answer but 1-3 a day is fairly common/normal for those on the program.
There are many variables that can influence this (increase or decrease amount) including dietary factors, (ie, fiber, fat, water), fluid intake, hormonal cycles, caffeine etc. There are medications and health issues that can also impact this.
Sometimes it may take a little while to get to a more regular experience. It is not unusual for participants to have infrequent and hard stools from their previous eating habits when they begin their new diet. For those that struggle while at the program, we offer some prunes/prune juice.
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JeffN wrote:There is no single answer but 1-3 a day is fairly common/normal for those on the program.
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verde wrote:JeffN wrote:There is no single answer but 1-3 a day is fairly common/normal for those on the program.
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Jeff, just one more question please: in the raw food/fruitarian community there's a common belief that everything you ate the day before should be out of your body in the morning the next day before breakfast (including what you had for dinner). Is this even possible/achievable and or desirable (in terms of health) on a regular basis (excluding the casualties of having an occasional food poisoning or something like that) in this lifestyle?
They seem to aim for that as a sign of health, but is that really a sign of health? And is it even possibleto achieve on a regular basis?
Thanks again!
JeffN wrote:
If you are not constipated or having diarrhea, both of which can cause problems over time, I would not worry.
The answer will differ between people and even within people depending on some of the very same things I mentioned above. While 24 hours is probably average in healthy people, the could range from 12-48.
I was part of the Raw Food community for many years. I think along with the fitness industry, they are some of the poorest sources of accurate health information, much of it without any evidence. My advice, avoid both for health info. Or, next the raw-fooders will have you comparing the color of your poops and taking them apart to make sure you food is properly digested.
If you want to do a simple test, eat beets with a specific meal. They will change the color of your poop to a purple/red and you will be able to see how long that took.
But, please, don't obsess over it.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22717088
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verde wrote:I had no idea you were once on the raw food movement! Interesting that you ended up here!
JeffN wrote:verde wrote:I had no idea you were once on the raw food movement! Interesting that you ended up here!
Started there. 1973
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verde wrote:What led you to search for more scientific data?
Also: any advice for the bloating issue? Is it common/normal? Thanks.
geo wrote:Great answers from Jeff!
From my experience after 6 years McDougalling:
1. I have 3-4 bowel movements a day. Usually 3 between about 6AM and Noon, and sometimes a 4th in late afternoon, early evening. Since my meals are pretty standardized, SNAP Style MWL meals, I'm very well regulated and can just about depend on this schedule 100% these days.
2. From eating till evacuation for me is approximately 17-18 hours. Thats like clockwork as well. Again because I eat pretty much the same type of food everyday.
3. Rather than Jeff's beet test (does anyone really eat beets? Please no hate pm's). I just use the corn test (By far the best tasting starch ). Easy to see and not a shocking color change
4. Time actually sitting on the stool from start to finish... maybe 30 seconds at most. Very quick, painless and only disapointment is no time to actually read anything
It may be TMI for SAD eaters, but for McDougallers its simply a joy
And no, I'm not obsessed over this...just observent
geo wrote:Generally, 3 meals a day and maybe a snack of a piece of fruit. Here's a pic and description of a typical meal (lunch/dinner):
viewtopic.php?f=41&t=36252&p=367925&hilit=geo+star+mcdougaller#p367925
My breakfast is usually 2 servings of oatmeal or other hot multi-grain cereal with a serving of fruit/berries in it.
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