Daily Food Volume and Satiety

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Daily Food Volume and Satiety

Postby vgpedlr » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:28 pm

I visited the link you provided for the "beginnng" of calorie density research, the 1983 study by Duncan, Bacon, et al which was interesting. So was the following study which appeared as a sidebar link.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7900695

Certainly flies in the face of the advice often given to eat "healthy fats" to promote satiety. I know it doesn't work for me. People often say the same thing about protein, perhaps because of digestion time? Is there any research on protein and satiety like the above study does with fat?

What research indicates that we unconsciously eat roughly the same weight of food daily that you mention in your presentation? I believe the range is 3-5 lbs which seems wide.

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Re: Daily Food Volume and Satiety

Postby JeffN » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:35 pm

vgpedlr wrote:Can you direct me to the research that shows we unconsciously eat roughly the same weight of food daily that you mention in your presentation? .


There isn't one study. There are several.

You can see them discussed in my Calorie Density talk during the section on calorie density.

https://youtu.be/0CdwWliv7Hg?t=14m28s

Here are the two from the talk

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/67/3/412.abstract

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/62/2/330.abstract

Here are a few more that discuss the issue within the study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7498104

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/236S.long

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9625090

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 840900122X

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/85/6/1465.long

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/85/5/1212.long

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/88/6/1459.full

http://www.andjrnl.org/article/S0002-8223(06)00889-3/fulltext

Some of them don't give the direct answer. You have to do the math from the numbers in the study.

vgpedlr wrote:I believe the range is 3-5 lbs which seems wide.


I hope so.

Humans come in a wide range of sizes and often have a wide range of activity.

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Re: Daily Food Volume and Satiety

Postby vgpedlr » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:58 pm

Fantastic, Jeff, thanks. All the links work except the first two from AJCN, which are behind a paywall. Unfortunately, I showed my dad my DVD copy of your talk and now it is missing. In your opinion is there a book by Barbara Rolls that does a great job with either the research or explaining it for a popular audience?

Somewhat related, I enjoyed Shintani's Hawaii Diet book, but always wondered how he determined a "traditional" Hawaiian diet. I've spent some time with Hawaiian families and I'm not sure they would agree, yet Shintani convinced his study participants.

Back to the books . . .
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Re: Daily Food Volume and Satiety

Postby JeffN » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:10 pm

vgpedlr wrote: Unfortunately, I showed my dad my DVD copy of your talk and now it is missing.


The first link above is to my talk online for free. It goes right to the section in discussion.

vgpedlr wrote: In your opinion is there a book by Barbara Rolls that does a great job with either the research or explaining it for a popular audience?


Her best book is her first, Volumetrics, but it is not one I would recommend. Just too generic and watered down compared to what I got from her research. I think her research is amazing but her mass media book leaves a lot to be desired.

Pritikin's Calorie Density Solution is not bad either but not great.

However, this article that appeared in the Kaiser Journal, is the best user friendly article she did.

https://www.thepermanentejournal.org/fi ... energy.pdf

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