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NickS wrote:Jeff, I almost took a picture at a similar Vegan restaurant chain just to send you. They had a jar of sugar crystals out as a condiment, and had it labeled "Unrefined Sugar".
JeffN wrote: I also said, I would like to know how they sweeten their BBQ sauce if there are no added sugars in it. (my guess is that it is the same issue, or they are using a sugar like maple syrup, which they are not counting because some think it is "natural.")
Drew_ab wrote:I had an experience at a vegan restaurant that seems to fit this thread well. The restaurant was labelled as plant based, the genetleman who served me talked about going vegan, watching Forks Over Knives, be familiar with T Colin Campbell's work, etc. Additionally, his daughter (and head chef) has a certificate in plant based nutrition from Cornell University. So we're all good right? It's easy to see why I assumed my meal would be plant based and low SOS.
As someone who's had open heart surgery twice (2 valve replacements), I am quite sensitive to things that impair endothelial function (oils, heavy weightlifting, coffee, intense stress, etc). While I don't have coronary artery disease, I do develop angina due to some narrow strictures in my slightly modified heart physiology.
While eating I should have known the food was too good to be true. It tasted pleasure trap rich, and I paid for it with chest discomfort for several hours after. Since I've eaten this way for 6.5 years, it's easy to connect the dots.
It's very frustrating!
JeffN wrote:A friend of mine is visiting a city that is almost always in the top lists of vegan cities in the USA. He is at a restaurant that is always on the list of the top vegan restaurants in that city.
When he went in, he asked and they said, their is no sugar, salt or oil in their food. He texted me to see if I knew if this was true as he knows I have been there before. I said, from my experience and memory, I think they are oil free, but I know they have salt and I believe there is some sugar in their food. He went and asked again and they repeated, no sugar, salt or oil. I said, they probably use some exotic salts and/or "natural" sweeteners that they don't count. You may have to ask the manager or chef or ask to see the recipes. He did and wrote me back and said, "I read the ingredients list and there is miso, brown rice syrup, maple syrup, fruit juice and some of the items had coconut oil."
Again, and always, Caveat Emptor.
In Health
Jeff
gracezw wrote:Thank you Jeff! It is always easier for me not to eat at a restaurant. I can save time and energy making a huge effort trying to figure out their real ingredients.
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