July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby laurag » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:50 am

153 so no loss but no gain hi everyone :)
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby moonlight » Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:10 pm

Hi Everyone!

Rosey, it’s so good to hear that your med is working and you have some answers. Stopping sodas will probably be a struggle but it’s doable, especially with this great group of people to cheer you on. I enjoy drinking sparkling water, the ones without any sodium. You have to read the labels. They are my substitute for beer. I love carbonated drinks with certain foods. Anyway, good luck!

I still weigh 171 lbs! I think I gained some in the last month or so. So, I guess 0 for me this week. I’m doing great staying on MWL foods and exercising 30 minutes a day. I may be eating more than I really need, just trying to keep the cravings down. I’ve eaten a couple of times during the night but I have only eaten MWL compliant food. Hopefully, next week I’ll see the scale go down.

Good luck to everyone! Thank you, Amy and Lindsey, for keeping us organized and energized!!
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby AnnetteW » Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:26 pm

Thank you, amandamechele for your kind welcome. I've been reading reading and reading some more. Turned out I actually already had the MWL book on my kindle, didn't realize I had downloaded it months ago. I've been on the WFPB thing since Feb/Mar now and just continuing to explore and experiment with what feels best for me.

I'll check out the links you reposted.

Now I think I'll just start "my journal" and get myself a cute and spiffy weightloss ticker and become part of the gang.
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby amandamechele » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:32 pm

Hi All,

Thank you all for checking in; I’m glad to be spending the month of July with you. By the looks of it, we are all off to a great start. I am excited to see how the month progresses. :)
I follow the McDougall Facebook pages for extra inspiration. Seeing pictures of Jeff’s sweet potato curry burgers posted in a couple of spots this past week gave me a craving. I indulged that craving today:
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Jeff’s Sweet Potato Curry Burger.

This is not a bad craving to have...LOL. It gave me the idea to find additional pictorial inspiration for this coming month of 100% MWL meals, so I am looking back through my Flickr food photos to help me decide on some delicious and nutritious meals to make.
Some of you have probably seen these photos, but I’ll share a few, maybe to get us all excited about just how much variety can come from a few simple classes of ingredients (beans, greens, starch, other veggies and fruits):
Food Prep:
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(Chana masala, 3 bean chilli, and Moroccan Red Lentil Soup)
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(Esselstyn’s Tarrazon Split Pea Soup and steamed veggies)
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(Threw something together at a friend’s with just a veggie platter, canned beans and steamed potatoes)
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(Baked potato bar at my sister’s for Christmas - everyone could top them just the way they liked them)
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(Out for lunch at Wendy’s)
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(On the road)
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(At an all you can eat Buffett in the Midwest)
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(This McDougall potato salad has tofu in the dressing but look at those carrots! How could I not post this. So beautiful!)
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(AJ’s brussel sprouts with some extra Dijon and oyster mushrooms - my favourite favourite mushrooms)

Okay, I’m feeling inspired now...LOL...hopefully you all are too.

What are some of your favourite meals? Feel free to post pictures (instructions can be searched for in the MWL thread).

Best wishes this week to all!

Amy XO


Here are the results for the first week in July:

Next Weigh-In is on Friday, July 12th, 2019

Total group loss reported in 2019: 319.62 pounds

July 2019 Weight Loss Group :: Monthly Weigh-In Results
Total group loss in January 2019: 140.53 pounds
Total group loss in February 2019: 78.64 pounds
Total group loss in March 2019: 7.4 pounds
Total group loss in April 2019: 33.55 pounds
Total group loss in May 2019: 38.2 pounds
Total group loss in June 2019: 13.4 pounds
Total group loss in July 2019: 7.9 pounds


Week ending 07/05/2019: 10 participants reported a total loss of 7.9 pounds
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ShortnSweet - 3.1
Cmwann - 2.2
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Total gains: 5.3
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Anelson108 - 4.6
AnnetteW - 0.0
Sirdle - 0.2
Belana - 1.1
LLP - 0.0
Rosey - 7.3
LauraG - 0.0
Moonlight - 0.0
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Total losses: 13.2
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Total group loss in July 2019: 7.9 pounds
Week ending 07/05/2019: 10 participants reported a total loss of 7.9 pounds
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby sirdle » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:42 pm

Amy,

I've said it before... anytime you have trouble eating all that food, please feel free to invite me over! I'll do my best to help you out! :mrgreen:

amandamechele wrote:Sirdle - Welcome home. Great loss for a vacation! That is some serious dedication to the plan. It sounds like you had a lovely vacation, did you and your wife have any favourite destinations?

Didn't do too well sticking with the plan, but we did rack up quite a few miles of walking! That helped a lot.

Our favourite places were the Mosel valley in Germany (with the castle, Burg Eltz, and and the Roman ruins in Trier) and the Roman-style baths in Baden-Baden. I'd go back again in a flash!

Cheers, :-P
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby AnnetteW » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:26 am

sirdle wrote:Our favourite places were the Mosel valley in Germany (with the castle, Burg Eltz, and and the Roman ruins in Trier) and the Roman-style baths in Baden-Baden. I'd go back again in a flash!

Cheers, :-P

How lovely that area is, I do agree. I used to live there, back in the 80's, when my late husband was stationed at Spangdahlem AFB. I used to do a lot of shopping in Trier, and of course, trips to Burg Eltz were a necessity with our visitors. One of my favorite memories is the Christmas Markets along the Mosel, and drinking wine with my friends as we explored different wineries., we did a lot of that. I've not been back though.
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby sirdle » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:57 am

AnnetteW wrote:
sirdle wrote:Our favourite places were the Mosel valley in Germany (with the castle, Burg Eltz, and and the Roman ruins in Trier) and the Roman-style baths in Baden-Baden. I'd go back again in a flash!

Cheers, :-P

How lovely that area is, I do agree. I used to live there, back in the 80's, when my late husband was stationed at Spangdahlem AFB. I used to do a lot of shopping in Trier, and of course, trips to Burg Eltz were a necessity with our visitors. One of my favorite memories is the Christmas Markets along the Mosel, and drinking wine with my friends as we explored different wineries., we did a lot of that. I've not been back though.

We only stayed 2 nights on the Mosel, but we could have stayed a week, easy. Bicycling, boating, exploring towns... what a marvellous area. And TREES! I miss living in a place where there are actual trees. The 1.5 hour hike up to Burg Eltz was magical. :)

Cheers, :-P
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby Belana » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:54 am

cmwann wrote:How EXCITING, Belana!! I'm on the sidelines cheering you on! You can do this!!! I can't imagine being that close!! See you at your goal next week! :)


Thanks cmwann, I appreciate the support!
I weighed myself this morning for comparison, and I weighted 102.3, so I'll probably hit my goal before next week.
It'll be weird not trying to lose weight and just maintain this goal weight.
losing weight is hard, especially if ones life isn't conducive.
In order to get from almost 140 lbs to 102 lbs, I had to give up a lot and be super strict. Additionally, I've had to tweak this diet quite a bit.
If you're interested in how I did it, please send me a pm, and I'll be happy to fill you in.
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby alishana » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:11 am

Hi everyone, I'd like to join the conversation back. My weight didn't change this past few weeks but I did a lot of eating out the program. I want to lose 13 more lbs and to feel great (eating oil or high fat foods make me sick).
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby moonlight » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:32 am

Amy, Thanks for sending the food pictures. Your first picture of your food prep is inspiring! So many times I envision having my refrigerator stocked with nicely cut and prepared vegetables. Do you keep this going most of the time? Do you just get in the habit of doing it one day each week or is it just an ongoing process? I go back and forth on thinking it’s good to spend lots of prep time in the kitchen or that I shouldn’t focus so much on food. I think you’ve given me inspiration to give this a go. :)

Last night I blew my 100%, no exceptions, MWL compliance July Challenge. I drank wine, then went off diet and ate some muffins and fruit pops. I had a friend over and my resistance dropped along with the muffins she brought. Maybe my month-long challenge will just have a little blip in it... So much for perfection!! I’m not discouraged to keep my challenge going, though! Yay, me for trudging on, right?
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby amandamechele » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:40 pm

Liz - Yep, the scale may not accurately reflect what is happening for you right now. A little fat loss and a little muscle gain. Let’s see how it goes this week. Thankfully there are no holidays involving marshmallows to get through, so we can remove that variable from the mix...LOL. XO.

Connie - Awesome to have you feeling well enough to be able to read the screen again without discomfort. I am so happy some progress is being made in helping you figure out all of the medical obstacles you are facing. It is a terrible feeling to not know what is going on. There was a period of time for me when my health was slowly going downhill that I kept going from doctor to specialist and back again trying to figure out my health issues and why I felt so crummy all of the time (other than the fact that I was obese). This was when I started to re-explore plant exclusive eating and found Dr. McDougall’s work through Jeff Novick, who I followed in a separate Yahoo group, years ago. I had read many other of the plant based program books, and felt confident that the points being made were true...but... I kept waiting to get really serious about them until I figured out what was wrong with my health. I kept wanting a diagnosis of some sort because then I thought I could best optimize my effort. But, for me anyway, it was just an unconscious stalling tactic. It kept me in the knowledge gathering stage of behaviour change without having to actually makes some serious changes. I felt like I was doing something for myself, working on the problem, when really I needed more doing and less thinking. I can often get stuck in these parallel tracks of working in the vicinity of a problem that I want to solve without actually truly tackling it (my volunteering gig on this website is kind-of an example of that too).
I am reading between the lines here, so please correct me if I’m wrong...or simply PM me to butt out, but am I understanding you corrected in that you have given up caffeine containing soda, but not, say, caffeine free soda? Congratulations on the first step! I have had a terrible time eliminating caffeine and will be cheering you through this process. How is it going? Giving up diet soda was one of my holdouts too, because it was calorie free and provided a hedonic buzz that was close enough to the real thing to make it tricky to let go of. I hope you are able to get completely off the soda soon, if you haven’t already. The diet is important, but if you find it easier to really focus on one issue at a time, I’d focus on that one. (I don’t mean let the dietary changes you’ve already made fall to the wayside, keep up with things you are already doing, but with regards to changing the calorie density for continued weight loss or trying to ensure better adherence than you currently are doing - well, I’d put all of that on the stovetop warming centre while turning up the heat on the soda strategy.) XO.

Laura - Hi right back at you! How was the weekend?

Annette - Excellent plan! I see you’ve already figured out how to add the weight loss ticker tape to your post signature. You have surpassed my abilities here...LOL. Best wishes this week starting up your journal. It is a key tool in helping you accurately keep track of how you are doing. Our minds can sometimes play a little trick on us and have us thinking we are being more adherent than we really are, so this will truly keep you honest and on track.

Sirdle - If your family ever travels out this way (Canadian west coast) please do come and share a meal with us. I’ll even make the colourful carrots...LOL. Your trip sounds wonderful.

Alishana - Awesome, I’m glad you are jumping back in. It took me longer than others to appreciate those same changes in palette that you are experiencing, but it happened eventually. That is heartening to hear and will help towards your adherence. Keep up some pretty good adherence and you will get those last 13 pounds off over time. :)

Moonlight - I am of the feeling that you and I are very similar and it may just be the case that we have to do the most strict version of the MWL plan - without added sugar and maybe salt - to get where we truly want to go. I find it so interesting how resistant I am to that idea - not in theory, but in practice. The errors occur in the moment to moment decisions, not in the forecasting or long term planning. Possibly because I am (we are ?) both highly cue reactive to pleasure inducing foods/substances/experiences and emotionally volatile enough to let those small slips derail us a bit too long to make further progress. We are able to recognize it too, which seems to be quite demotivating. We are stuck in a loop and the most noninvasive way out of it are the strict dietary changes listed above. We’ve travelled this path so many times that it is the easiest, most well worn, route for our fast-thinking decision making selves to make in a pinch. As an aside, in the past 2 years of no further weight loss progress for myself, I have given up alcohol and (still feeling tentative about this one) caffeine containing drinks. This is progress of a sorts as they will no longer periodically cause errors in food choice related judgements and send me into the pleasure trap.... a trap I am especially prone to. So...now onto the next items on the list, I guess.
As for my food prep, I do it twice a week. I have managed to keep it consistently a habit through associating it with the fun activity of watching webinars or listening to podcasts. When we are eating out too often, or I end up eating the regular program food too often that I make for my family because I am too busy/tired to use even those pre-prepared ingredients for my own meals, I end up throwing away a lot of food that doesn’t get eaten. I really hate doing that but I am not willing to disrupt my food prep schedule because it is highly necessary for success. If the food is not sitting there ready, there’s an even higher probability of going off plan.
Don’t let your slip discourage you. Let it be another lesson. There will come a time when you’ve accumulated enough of those to tip you into another motivated phase (like right now!). I had recently let life get really busy, too busy to keep enough focus on this goal, so I have pared down my summer activities to the bare minimum that I feel I reasonably can and am digging in because September will get busy for me again and I want to be in the best place possible before I have to split my attention again.
I slipped last night too. I couldn’t sleep and wandered into the kitchen. No nuts, no raisins, but there were salted sunflower seeds (my youngest son really loves them so I hesitated to throw them away). I ate half a bag and added some honey, then followed that up with oil-free toast and peanut butter. I managed to stop and compost the rest. So now I’ve thrown away something my child enjoys and am contemplating getting rid of bread that my husband relies on to stay on track (when he‘s trying to do-so) and it feels very selfish but it may be necessary for a time. This kind of thing provides me with never-ending embarrassment to discuss here, but c’est ma vie and my experience with this process and I think that’s what I’m supposed to share. This is not the average experience that one has following the program. People who embrace the vast majority of the guidelines are going to do very well and meet their goals. But some of us are going to have to just go all the way...and figure out how to do that without setting ourselves up into an ego trap. Best wishes this week my friend. I am still in it and will be doing what it takes to make this a very successful month. Don’t sweat yesterday because it is now today, and today can be great! YAY YOU...absolutely!
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby wildgoose » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:51 am

Amy and others, I can relate to the idea of having to go all in to get results. I’ve been moderate with regular McDougall plan and MWL, off and on for 7 years. My weight has gone up and down, gaining and losing the same 35-40 pounds. Then last year, my blood pressure started getting high. Top number was regularly in the 160s, spiking to over 200. Needless to say, the doctor wanted me on meds, which I refused.

I also was having real problems with joint pain and insomnia. In short, I was a mess. Tired all the time, angry and grumpy — not a pleasant Goose to be around.

I did a consultation with Dr. Doug Lisle. Since I can’t afford a trip to TrueNorth, he recommended a long stretch of very clean eating. Steamed vegetables, fruits, plain starches. No sugar, oil, or salt. No processed food. No gluten.

So I tried it. I’m 90 days in. 100% compliant. No condiments except for lemon juice, salt-free mustard, and a little balsamic. Nothing processed except for what Jeff would call "minimally" processed — no-salt/sugar-added canned, frozen or aseptically packaged vegetables and fruits. For the first 60 days I lived on rice, broccoli, steel cut oats, banana and blueberries. No condiments at all. I’ve been slowly adding a little more variety this past month, but I’m being very careful and noting my reactions (physically and psychologically) to every food I add in.

It's working. I’ve lost 27 pounds in 90 days — to within 12 pounds of my goal weight. My blood pressure is consistently in the high 90s over high 60s. Joint pain is probably 70% improved, as is sleep. Not perfect, but so much better.

Cravings are mostly gone. Being 100% compliant was harder initially but easier now. When I was going back and forth, I was constantly having to re-adapt. This way, my body has gotten used to plain, whole natural food, and it stays that way. I admit, it does help that I have complete support in keeping the house 100% CRAP food free. If I had Goslings around who were eating snacks and salty, sugary processed stuff, I’d be in trouble. Since I prepare everything I eat (no eating out, no eating if I go to someone's house) and my environment is clean, the temptation to go off-plan is practically nonexistent. The only habit that still tempts me is being in the car and driving past my former favorite fast food places.

I seem to be one of those people who can’t do 80%. So far, I haven’t hit a problem with the ego trap, but I can see where that would happen if I let my guard down. It’s easy to get sick and tired of ALWAYS having to feed yourself, but the alternative (being sick and tired) is much worse.

So I’m carrying on with Dr. Lisle’s experiment, and we'll see where it takes me.

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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby Shortnsweet » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:46 am

Ran out of one of my prescriptions and, of course, it expired so I had to go to the doctor so they can look at me and deem me worthy of refilling my prescription.

The doctor, who is also obese, tells me “I need to counsel you on diet and exercise. Do as I say not as I do.” She didn’t actually counsel me by providing any advice on what to do other than “diet and exercise.” LOL Sigh

Anyway, I told her that I had lost 37 pounds last year, but regained it. But that I was back on track. I now have a follow-up appointment in six months so that’s another motivational carrot for me to show weight-loss progress and hopefully improvement in my lab results.
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby Michele613 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:18 pm

Hi Everyone,

I joined in January but went 'dark' by March and not on the forum. I intend to get back on the team this coming week and so in preparation and for some inspiration I read the July posts (did not have time to read the tales and trails from June).

Wow....so many wonderful posts!!!

AMY...firstly....I felt hungry after looking at your photos .... inspiration was secondary. It's 8:30 pm and when I am on the computer at night and often in to the VERY late hours (or early hours of the next day) I find myself 'wanting something' so I knew your photos would spark a 'wanting' but thanks for the ideas. I continue to be impressed with your intelligent, honest, heartfelt and inspiring posts. I relate to many of the things you post and try to learn from the rest of them. THANK YOU BIG TIME!

ShortnSweet - I got a chuckle from your cartoon and post. Thanks for the uplifting laugh. There has to be humor in this journey in order to fuel continued forward movement. Most of us have experienced yo-yo dieting but sticking with this forum, its supporters and the program will hopefully but an end to that. Let's do it!

Goose - congrats on your wonderful forward progress. Your last post was a reminder to not to become complacent about choosing our foods. I was doing really, really well (as with you, losing almost 10#s a month) ...UNTIL all that ease and control went out the window when I went out of town for 6 weeks back mid-Feb and I fell prey to temptation. I packed the right clothes but not the right attitude. I did not FULLY steel myself for what 'might' come my way and I found myself with people and in places that were not conducive to making right choices or even being on the program at all. I did not INSIST that my hostess prepare rice and veggies for me and ate their foods which were OFF program totally and that was the beginning of a more than 4-month fall from grace. Thanks for the inspiration.

Belana - I am soooooooo proud of you and I too will be here to celebrate, G-d willing, next week for your crossing the finish line (of this stage of the journey). Fantastic!

Moonlight - I so enjoyed the exchanges between you and Amy. I so related to many of the ideas as I too, like others, have experienced them. I have tried prep but as Amy I believe posted I end up throwing out spoiled fresh veggies and get highly frustrated at the waste. I just announced to my husband 'no more fresh veggies' until I get a handle on myself...FROZEN only :) until then.

Rosey
- Welcome back :) Leading by example....that's what we are doing for each other and for others in our lives. That's what your doctor could be doing but who truly knows another's challenges. As we can see from this forum alone, we share many 'alike' challenges but many very individual ones. Let's hope we can surmount them all because life has a way of filling the vacuum. One day at a time - right? (maybe one moment, or 10 minutes, etc etc). We can do this especially with the wonderful support our team leader and members give us.

Alishana - it is encouraging to see others 'coming or jumping' back to the forum. I was hesitant but all of you remind me that we are just human and need support when we take upon ourselves certain more long-term and at times difficult challenges. There is no embarrassment here and that opens the door to participation. Thanks.

Sirdle - congrats on coming home from vacation unscathed food-wise. Sounds like a wonderful trip for you both. You must feel really proud of yourself (or should) for your success whether it was intentional or not ... you were spared with the walking. My 6 week trip was without that balance....inactivity + temptations + uncooperative host now and then = failure. I'm back and NOT going out of the country again unless I am better prepared for the foreseeable or unexpected. Keep up the good work!

To the rest of the team - thanks for being you...open, sharing, human and supportive.
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Re: July 2019 McDougall Weigh In Thread

Postby moonlight » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:25 pm

Michele613 wrote:Hi Everyone,,,


Welcome Back!!
It's so great you decided to get back to business. It is so tough to stop all the pleasure eating but once we do, we can be so happy and relieved. I think once we learn about how to take care of our bodies, food wise, we will only be at peace working on that goal. I look forward to hearing about your progress. :)
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