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Why Mushrooms May Be the Best Food to Help Fight Aging

Postby bbq » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:17 am

Now we could tell why Super Mario Bros. didn't seem to age over the years:

Why Mushrooms May Be the Best Food to Help Fight Aging
http://www.newsweek.com/why-mushrooms-may-be-best-food-help-fight-aging-707410
New research reveals that mushrooms are “without a doubt” the highest known single source of the antioxidants ergothioneine and glutathione, which are both associated with anti-aging properties.

Eating mushrooms could help prevent dementia and Alzheimer's disease, study finds
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/877586/alzheimers-disease-eating-mushrooms-could-stop-dementia-study-scientific-journal-food-fact

Mushrooms are full of antioxidants that may have antiaging potential
http://news.psu.edu/story/491477/2017/11/09/research/mushrooms-are-full-antioxidants-may-have-antiaging-potential

Ergothioneine: A New Vitamin?
https://nutritionfacts.org/2013/04/02/ergothioneine-a-new-vitamin/

Ergothioneine in Mushrooms-Nature's Best Source of a New Human Vitamin?
http://plantpath.psu.edu/mushroom-industry-conference/52-mushroom-industry-conference/Bob%20Beelman.pdf

Mushrooms: A rich source of the antioxidants ergothioneine and glutathione
http://sci-hub.cc/10.1016/j.foodchem.2017.04.109
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030881461730691X
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While I don't believe a single food could trump the overall eating patterns, it's still nice to know what we could do to (potentially) give us an edge. Here's an organic risotto with porcini mushrooms from Lundberg but unfortunately olive oil was listed:

https://www.amazon.com/Lundberg-Organic-Whole-Porcini-Mushroom/dp/B00CPOAUZE

Bulk Dried Organic Porcini Mushrooms - 8 oz - by FungusAmongUs - $23.00
https://www.amazon.com/Bulk-Dried-Organic-Porcini-Mushrooms/dp/B073RRHCPF

Porcini Powder (16 oz) (PP) - $26.00
http://buymorels.com/store.htm

Porcini Mushroom Powder - 1Lb Bag - $39.76
https://spicespecialist.com/porcini-mushroom-powder/
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Re: Why Mushrooms May Be the Best Food to Help Fight Aging

Postby vgpedlr » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:53 am

I love mushrooms. I throw them into all kinds of things. In contrast, my niece hates them, can't stand the texture. So my sister and I try to hide them in her food. It's a fun game.

In interesting to note that traditional cultures have long revered mushrooms for longevity. Science is catching up.
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Re: Why Mushrooms May Be the Best Food to Help Fight Aging

Postby f1jim » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:57 am

Me too. I am a mushroom fanatic. We just made a huge bowl of Pho with 6 different types of mushrooms in it.
I'm hooked.
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Re: Why Mushrooms May Be the Best Food to Help Fight Aging

Postby Willijan » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:05 am

Here is my perspective on why the idea of any specific food being the "best food" based on its nutrients is wrong:

I think this idea might qualify for the "reductionism" that T. Colin Campbell discusses. Any research that talks about nutrients and micronutrients in foods can't really be based on what happens in our bodies. There are too many factors and it's all too complex. If you read Dr. Campbell's book Whole, he discusses ideas related to this.

Here are two links from a recent post by michaelswarm, on this board, to two journal articles by Campbell. If I remember correctly, parts of the articles relate to this idea.

"Nutrition and Cancer Journal, Jun 2017
The Past, Present, and Future of Nutrition and Cancer: Part 1—Was A Nutritional Association Acknowledged a Century Ago?
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10. ... 17.1317823

Nutrition and Cancer Journal, Jul 2017
Nutrition and Cancer: An Historical Perspective.—The Past, Present, and Future of Nutrition and Cancer. Part 2. Misunderstanding and Ignoring Nutrition
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10. ... 17.1339094"


Mathematically, it has been proven that when you get to a certain level of complexity, there is a point, early on, where there is no way to determine the reality of what's happening. And these things aren't studied within the human body. How could one isolate the effects of one food, or one nutrient, and how they affect our bodies?

So any time I see something about "best foods" and "superfoods", I just don't take it seriously. I used to be very interested in work such as they do at the Linus Pauling Institute (if I remember right, it's at the Oregon Health Sciences University). I subscribed to their newsletter. They study micronutrients and their supposed effects. I never read their stuff anymore. It's not relevant to reality.
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Re: Why Mushrooms May Be the Best Food to Help Fight Aging

Postby colonyofcells » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:33 am

I like the wild chanterelle and wild morel which are usually sold in costco when they are in season but they are a bit expensive. Wild chanterelle and wild morel have some vitamin d. I also like the organic mushrooms with vitamin d from hokto kinoko who have a factory in san marcos CA. I usually buy the maitake from hokto kinoko. Near my place, Safeway sells white mushroom (not organic) with vitamin d. Farmers markets also sell wild morel when they are in season but are also expensive.
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Re: Why Mushrooms May Be the Best Food to Help Fight Aging

Postby c107 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:23 pm

f1jim wrote:Me too. I am a mushroom fanatic. We just made a huge bowl of Pho with 6 different types of mushrooms in it.
I'm hooked.
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I really want the recipe to this. Pho and mushrooms are my most favorite foods.
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Re: Why Mushrooms May Be the Best Food to Help Fight Aging

Postby f1jim » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:32 pm

There is a Korean market near us in Daly, City, CA called Kukje. They sell a large bowl of Pho ingredients. It has a very large list of veggies as well as three or 4 types of mushrooms. We buy three other types of mushrooms along with it and add veggie broth. It's super and gives us enough for two days worth of Pho. We think it's magnificent. Come on by some time and we will make it for you.
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Re: Why Mushrooms May Be the Best Food to Help Fight Aging

Postby roundcoconut » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:49 pm

Willijan wrote:
Mathematically, it has been proven that when you get to a certain level of complexity, there is a point, early on, where there is no way to determine the reality of what's happening. And these things aren't studied within the human body. How could one isolate the effects of one food, or one nutrient, and how they affect our bodies?

So any time I see something about "best foods" and "superfoods", I just don't take it seriously.


I love what you said, and I agree with it 100%.

Also worth mentioning, is that this is a forum where Dr McDougall’s take on nutrition (together with Jeff Novick’s, as Dr M’s hand-picked nutritionist), is the thing that we kind of agree to agree on. Dr Greger has more of a “superfoods” approach, as does Dr Fuhrman, but it IS good to mostly discuss the basic principles of THIS program (Dr McDougall’s) on this forum, so that newcomers and lurkers don’t have to deal with the static, and also because icky fights can erupt over people coming to these boards and spouting off-program stuff.

Ha! Well, of course mushrooms themselves are not “off program” in any way, but assigning special values to certain fruits and vegetables, isn’t a part of Dr M’s or Jeff’s recommendations.

Oh, well, now I’m a big party-pooper. ;)

I think mushrooms are yummy, but I’m not counting on any one food to help me age well. I think the overall pattern of eating and living, is the only thing that can keep my body youthful and energetic! :)
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Re: Why Mushrooms May Be the Best Food to Help Fight Aging

Postby GeoffreyLevens » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:11 pm

I love mushrooms for the flavor (lots of umami) and dense, chewy texture. Any "magic" is just bonus points. I have a local friend who "hunts" them, calls them "earth meat". He likes them so much he built an expensive sterile grow room onto his house, bought a gigantic pressure cooker to sterilize culture medium, and grows his own exotica. Still forages for them too but things like Lion's Mane and a number of his other favorites just don't grow around here. I mostly buy dried shiitake online since best price I can find for organic, high quality...
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