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Over 100 Million of us in the US.

Postby f1jim » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:35 pm

What do over 100 million Americans have in common?

https://consumer.healthday.com/diabetes ... 24703.html

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Re: Over 100 Million of us in the US.

Postby Thrasymachus » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:22 am

That is mind boggling and pathetic, so pretty much 1 in 3 Americans are diabetic or pre and the country thinks everything is fine, there is no problem, they don't even know there is a problem. Anyway the problem if acknowledged on the level deserved, would be attributed to some magic increased genetic disposition to the disease, since all illnesses come from genes and thus one behavior or way of eating is the same as the next. And further if the US government actually had an intention to intervene positively, which it wouldn't since it is captured by industries that cause and profit from this, but if it did attempt to tax junky and high fat foods more comparatively, we would have "muh the free market" whining.
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Re: Over 100 Million of us in the US.

Postby Spiral » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:04 am

Thrasymachus wrote:That is mind boggling and pathetic, so pretty much 1 in 3 Americans are diabetic or pre and the country thinks everything is fine, there is no problem, they don't even know there is a problem. Anyway the problem if acknowledged on the level deserved, would be attributed to some magic increased genetic disposition to the disease, since all illnesses comes from genes and thus one behavior or way of eating is the same as the next. And further if the US government actually had an intention to intervene positively, which it wouldn't since it is captured by industries that cause and profit from this, but if it did attempt to tax junky and high fat foods more comparatively, we would have "muh the free market" whining.

Well, this might be a very tiny bright spot, but I know person who knows that there is a problem. A co-worker of mine was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes two months ago. Her doctor was getting ready to write her a prescription for medication. But my co-worker had a sister who had success with a "vegan diet." So, my co-worker told her doctor, "I would like 3 months to see if I can deal with my Type 2 Diabetes with diet instead of medication." And her doctor said, "Okay." My co-worker has lost 30 pounds and excited about being vegan. I asked her to watch Jeff Novick's You Tube video: Calorie Density, How to Eat More, Weigh Less and Live Longer. She did and loved it. So, she has given up using olive oil while cooking.

But you are right. Our culture is motivated in exactly the wrong direction. All of the job opportunities are directed towards the status quo. Health care, restaurants, processed food, animal based food. There's no money in the cure.

But the word seems to be getting out anyway. The question is this: Are we so addicted to unhealthy living to the point where living healthfully seems like torture, when in fact being unhealthy is torture?
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Re: Over 100 Million of us in the US.

Postby bbq » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:48 am

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https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v485/n7398_supp/full/485S2a.html

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http://sci-hub.cc/10.1016/S2213-8587(13)70112-8
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70112-8/abstract

Technically not exactly a "problem" in a sense that we're counting on the "health" care industry to sustain the entire economy. If something drastic were happening to that particular $3 trillion industry, it's pretty difficult to predict the impact when some of the biggest (and baddest) earners / spenders are no longer enjoying that "lucky streak" anymore.

Even economic superpowers are struggling to deal with a very different set of problems. Plenty of edible foods are going to dumpsters followed by the landfills, while approximately 1 in 8 (i.e. 12.7%) of U.S. households were food insecure back in 2015:

http://www.worldhunger.org/hunger-in-america-2016-united-states-hunger-poverty-facts/

Even if the rest were getting enough to eat, we still have to figure out how many of them were relying on heavily subsidized foods that would cost them much more in terms of their health down the line. And then we'll have to think about how to deal with food deserts when most people aren't necessarily aware that we could still get by if we're able to buy rice and beans in bulk somewhere:

http://americannutritionassociation.org/newsletter/usda-defines-food-deserts

I believe that we don't really have to talk about ADA since they're such a mess and a half to begin with:

http://youtu.be/GZYP9uHC6RA#t=140 wrote:Any diet works, any diet works if people follow it.
http://youtu.be/GZYP9uHC6RA#t=254 wrote:What he wanna talk about was people living longer with diabetes.
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REBUTTAL: Dr. Robert Ratner, MD Interview - "What The Health" Documentary
http://youtu.be/kpGqHyXGusA
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