Dr. Greger, Russian Propagandist?

[openmind]

How did nutritionfacts.org end up on this list ?

http://www.propornot.com/p/the-list.html

Are the Russians trying to get us to eat more veggies?

[JuicerJohn]

So, some group of so-called "concerned Americans" came up with a script that tracks the activity on websites, and if that activity meets their criteria, which is more than likely pretty much arbitrary, that website goes on their list.

To be honest, my first thought on reading was, "is this a joke?". Or a reaction to the recent Trump-a-phobia being involved with the Russians, or something totally different.

Whatever it is, anyone can make a script that looks for certain patterns of website activity and then claim that such activity mkaes them likely _________ (fill in the blank.

[openmind]

So, some group of so-called "concerned Americans" came up with a script that tracks the activity on websites, and if that activity meets their criteria, which is more than likely pretty much arbitrary, that website goes on their list.

To be honest, my first thought on reading was, "is this a joke?". Or a reaction to the recent Trump-a-phobia being involved with the Russians, or something totally different.

Whatever it is, anyone can make a script that looks for certain patterns of website activity and then claim that such activity mkaes them likely _________ (fill in the blank.

The scary thing is that the Washington Post cited this website in a recent article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

So even if this group's methodology is pretty much a joke, the fact that they are smearing a bunch of really good websites with no apparent real evidence makes them just as bad as the Fake News websites, IMHO.

[JuicerJohn]

Honestly, I believe they are a fake news website. But you're right, it is scary that they have managed a level of credibility that catches The Washington Post's attention.

Hopefully these guys get outed quickly and The Post has to deal with vegan egg substitute on their face.

[PurplePotato]

As far as I can tell, the MSM labeling other news sources as 'fake' is no different than an auto repair chain saying that the local mom-and-pop shop down the street doesn't know how to fix a car. They clearly have their own interests in mind, and cannot be trusted to make such a claim. Which means you have to look at reporters themselves, and see if they are backing up their claims with evidence, and representing said evidence in a reasonable fashion. I imagine most people on this site know to do this verification when it comes to information about nutrition, but other subject are not immune.

Also, I find the idea that Russia is trying to brainwash Americans really amusing, because it's so narcissist. I can't know for certain, but I imagine Russia generally doesn't give a f*ck about the US. Sure, they don't care for US troops (or NATO) moving closer to their borders, want good trade relations, ect. but other than that, why bother? It's a case of America, The Bully (in some ways anyways), trying to act like America, The Victim. Sad!

[JuicerJohn]

It just occurred to me. Nutrition Facts does accept free advertising. Perhaps it is the content of those ads that PropOrNot flagged as worthy of investigation. Perhaps it is ad content that triggered many or even all of the sites cited by PropOrNot.

If not the ads, then you have to consider the possibility that Dr. Gregor is somehow complicit, which he may be, after all, look at what a political activist he has been in the past!

[PurplePotato]

Maybe some of the comments set off their metrics? I did a search for Russia on Nutrionfacts' site, and found some comments like this one (http://nutritionfacts.org/2016/07/12/gm ... st-cancer/):

Putin and Russian officials have kicked out Monsanto from Russia. The difference between Putin and America which is really governed by Big Business is that Putin is doing everything he can to make his people, country, and military strong, whereas, Big Business in America is doing everything it can to make a lot of money at the expense of anything and everything. This is why Big Global Business entities are trying to encircle Russia with NATO bases because Russia wants nothing to do with Monsanto and Globalization.

Maybe if we talk about this enough, we can get get drmcdougall.com listed on propornot

[JuicerJohn]

Maybe some of the comments set off their metrics? I did a search for Russia on Nutrionfacts' site, and found some comments like this one (http://nutritionfacts.org/2016/07/12/gm ... st-cancer/):

Putin and Russian officials have kicked out Monsanto from Russia. The difference between Putin and America which is really governed by Big Business is that Putin is doing everything he can to make his people, country, and military strong, whereas, Big Business in America is doing everything it can to make a lot of money at the expense of anything and everything. This is why Big Global Business entities are trying to encircle Russia with NATO bases because Russia wants nothing to do with Monsanto and Globalization.

Maybe if we talk about this enough, we can get get drmcdougall.com listed on propornot

Good find! Yes, now I see what it likely takes to be listed as a subversive according to PropOrNot

Putin and Russian officials have kicked out Monsanto from Russia. The difference between Putin and America which is really governed by Big Business is that Putin is doing everything he can to make his people, country, and military strong, whereas, Big Business in America is doing everything it can to make a lot of money at the expense of anything and everything. This is why Big Global Business entities are trying to encircle Russia with NATO bases because Russia wants nothing to do with Monsanto and Globalization.

Poor Dr. Gregor, just a "useful fool" in a plot to turn the election for Trump.

[JuicerJohn]

@purplepotato,

I think you hit the nail on the head! I picked a PropOrNot target site at random and did a search for: "collectiveevolution.com: russia" and this is what came up: http://www.collective-evolution.com/201 ... -citizens/

The exact same topic as in the NutritionFacts comment.

Maybe I shouldn't admit this, but I have commented on Russia's ban of Monsanto. Should I start looking over my shoulder for a Secret Service tail? Do you think they've tapped my phone yet?

[PurplePotato]

Maybe I shouldn't admit this, but I have commented on Russia's ban of Monsanto. Should I start looking over my shoulder for a Secret Service tail? Do you think they've tapped my phone yet?

Nah, I watched most of the talks of the Toronto Hearings on 9/11 on Youtube a few years ago, and appear to have been unaffected. Unless, of course, I'm one of them, and I'm trying to trick you. Better get the tinfoil hat out of storage

[JuicerJohn]

LOL!

I've got mine right here next to me, just in case.

[AlwaysAgnes]

Ron Paul Liberty Report
More Fake News: Who's On The Washington Post Blacklist?
"The Washington Post recently featured a front page article accusing over 200 websites of being part of a vast Russian propaganda campaign to steal the election from Hillary and give the presidency to Trump. Major sites like Drudge and Zero Hedge are allegedly part of this vast conspiracy, as is the Ron Paul Institute. The Post article links to a "study" by an anonymous group as its source for the wild allegation. And that source calls for a federal criminal investigation of these alternative news sources. Is this neo-McCarthyism about to turn dangerous for free speech?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fheeAgA ... e=youtu.be

[Chikiwing]

Having a list of "fake news" sites by the MSM sounds like something from "The Ministry of Truth."

How long before they are promoting the "Two Minutes Hate" against those they don't like?

[JuicerJohn]

Wow, all of a sudden, this doesn't seem so funny any more. This could be some really serious stuff.

I looked at the Washington Post web site by the way. A lot of comments on the article they ran are asking the very pertinent question, who is PropOrNot, and why is WP reporting on their clams as if they are fact?

[PurplePotato]

Here is "Russian Propagandist" Paul Craig Roberts (former economic advisor under Regan and former associate editor of The Wall Street Journal) having some fun with this subject: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/11 ... ent-putin/. Not for the faint of heart, as he doesn't pull any punches.