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Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby BlueGene » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:35 pm

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https://youtu.be/Lcxw2cKA0Fo

This is absolutely awesome! Well worth the watch!
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Re: Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby bbq » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:08 pm

80/10/10 Debunked
http://youtu.be/gTNW1vvT1O0

Doug Graham did something like that as well, it's all about the coattail riders IMHO.

Grain Damage vs Starch Solution: Are Grains Bad?
http://youtu.be/KKUcafgbyMc

Graham_arrest_1.pdf
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3v7d87Mx69HMEM5b2QxYXBUTkU

Graham_arrest_2.pdf
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3v7d87Mx69HR0x5cHUzY2NXMGs

Dr. Doug Graham FASTING, MALPRACTICE - OFFICIAL LEGAL DOCUMENTS REVEALED
http://youtu.be/DJSbVUxviWc

Busted!: Is Douglas Graham a Scammer?
http://youtu.be/hlXlUKrpEV0

Doug Graham Banned From Woodstock
http://youtu.be/QIzbQY1SA-w

Doug Graham Banned From Vegsource After 20 years?
http://youtu.be/zfY7J8aqjow

Nearly died on 25 Day Water Fast with Doug Graham
http://youtu.be/l4Ge2OCti4I

Doug Graham Water Fast Costa Rica Leah's mum tells what happened
http://youtu.be/KxwMXwwlz4o

Leah's response to David Klein from what Doug Graham has told him
http://youtu.be/qJ0XlxzFrNc

Recent death @ Dougs fasting retreat?
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/100032791.html

Doug - Could you explain to the raw vegan community what happened with your 2009 arrest in Florida for money laundering?
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/100040485.html

Doug Graham, VegSource, Threats of Lawsuits
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/100048297.html

Gimmetruthdoc.pdf
http://api.ning.com/files/m5DCNqwNmKaDUauH-woVue-V5xlZequ7e52Et5jfcJelHulOox1OdO90wkRIE*M-kHYyBBgz5F3u1FKdy77NY3mZetnTEor*/Gimmetruthdoc.pdf

This means raw: extreme dieting and the battle among fruitarians
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2014/dec/03/-sp-trouble-with-fruitarians

Busted! Douglas Graham Mugshots
http://www.bustedmugshots.com/florida/key-largo/douglas-graham/38451781

DOUGLAS N GRAHAM
License Status NULL AND VOID/
License Expiration Date 2/28/2000
https://appsmqa.doh.state.fl.us/MQASearchServices/HealthCareProviders/LicenseVerification?LicInd=4405&ProCde=501

Discipline & Administrative Actions
Case # 199403741
https://appsmqa.doh.state.fl.us/DocServiceMngr/GetImage.aspx?documentid=MjEzNzA5MDY=&enc=1
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Re: Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby bbq » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:21 am

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Re: Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby Ltldogg » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:59 am

From our Nutrition Expert, Jeff Novick:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=41629

This thread from Jeff has links to all his pertinent threads on Sugar as well as to outside expert sources.
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Re: Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby dailycarbs » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:40 am

Durianrider uses shock and outlandish comments to draw viewers. I wouldn't take his videos as any sign of his regular diet. He probably eats a pretty healthy 80/10/10 diet high in fruit and raw foods including juices, smoothies and died fruits. He's an athlete so these foods are fine for him getting calories. Better than pizza and doughnuts.
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Re: Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby Risto » Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:09 pm

I guess the sugar soda thing might be just Durianrider trolling, but he's been talking consistently for years about eating tons of sugar. Fairly recently he video logged thirty days (think it was) of his diet, aiming to keep it very inexpensive (four Australian dollars per day or some such). He started every day with a fruit smoothie with hundreds of grams of added sugar. Whether that was a joke or not, it was indistinguishable from the rest of his diet advice.
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Re: Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby BlueGene » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:36 pm

I don't think Durianrider is lying about his sugar intake and his disciples are taking his advice. Vegan Ava actually moved to Thailand to be with the Raw till 4 c̶u̶l̶t̶ community. This is what she eats:

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https://youtu.be/fsLDkcC6EUo
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Re: Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby bbq » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:09 pm

Crohn's Disease: the secret to Durianrider's diet. :-(
http://youtu.be/1G0XoD-fNx4
Fundamentally, "…people with Crohn disease are at risk of malnutrition, because their intestine cannot absorb all the nutrients they need from their diet." [Source:] http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/condition/crohns-disease

Eating a diet largely consisting of bananas and other high-fiber, carbohydrate-based foods has been found by some studies to help people cope with the disease (but please note that research is still ongoing, and, e.g., the extent to which the disorder is an autoimmune dysfunction is still debated). [Source:] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/519185

On Crohn's disease in general, and with a description of the type of steroids typically used in treatment (and their side-effects, etc.):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_Crohn's_disease

Suddenly, Durianrider's more absurd advice (quoted in an earlier video) that a person getting zero exercise should be able to eat unlimited calories without gaining weight (etc.) "makes sense" in reference to his own, direct experience: Crohn's disease would fundamentally change the way he perceives diet, exercise, weight-gain, and how much he needs to eat to feel energetic (etc.). His needs (and his ability to gain weight) will be radically different from those of an average/healthy person.

His experience with the disease might have given him some terrible experiences with the side-effects of cortico-steroids, and, more generally, the extent to which people suffering from the condition will have extreme changes in their (subjective) health corresponding to (sometimes minor) changes in their diet.

For someone with Crohn's disease, switching to a vegan, high-fiber diet, could indeed come as "a revelation", if their former diet had been aggravating their symptoms. What he says about fatigue, having enough energy, etc., suddenly "makes sense" when you know that he has Crohn's disease (even though it is TERRIBLE advice for 99% of the population!).

In the video linked to below, D.R. sincerely says that eating A HUGE QUANTITY of carbs will "cure" chronic fatigue syndrome; from anyone else, this would just sound crazy (or stupid… certainly unscientific)… but it is actually easy to imagine how someone struggling with Crohn's disease could perceive things this way.
https://youtu.be/kTgozmZCHcU?t=1m5s

If he were honest and scientifically-rigorous about it, Durianrider's experience probably could be useful for other people with Crohn's disease to learn from (and they may be the only people who really could/should eat 30 bananas per day!)… but, instead, he has been dishonest, insulting and extremely aggressive, (1) imagining himself to be miraculously cured, and (2) dismissing anyone who doesn't get results similar to his own as secretly eating hamburgers (etc.), claiming that gaining weight on his diet is "impossible" (etc.)… when, in reality, his perspective and experience are shaped by an extreme and incurable disease. Sad.

It already was a strange irony that a guy who had been diagnosed with anorexia (and as an ex-drug-addict, etc.) was in his position (of leading a fad diet)… but it is even more ironic that this role is being played by someone with such a serious illness, with such a conflicted attitude toward his own illness, and who projects his own experience (struggling to eat enough to feel energetic, etc.) onto people who do not share the digestive problems (malabsorption-of-nutrients, etc.) of Crohn's disease.
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Re: Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby bbq » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:49 pm

Now he's pulling the Kempner card on his channel with this video:

http://youtu.be/1cl2IX94GCI

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They're having fruit and fruit juice back then, NOT soda pops.

And it's high in complex carbohydrates (i.e. starches) but they weren't talking about simple carbohydrates:

http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/64/4/684.long

The diet provided ≈2000 calories per day but a low-calorie diet with 800 calories or less were offered to achieve loss of body tissue:

http://sci-hub.cc/10.1056/NEJM194902102400609
http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM194902102400609

Those sugars were added to lower the percentage of proteins when patients were having troubles with their kidneys.

Maybe he just wanna whip his cult followers into shape in Chiang Mai next year?

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/kempner-rice-diet-whipping-us-into-shape/
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Re: Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby bbq » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:11 pm

Vegan Cheetah Steps Up And Dr McDougall Delivers!

http://youtu.be/B92APBuNwHI
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Re: Durianrider Destroyed By Dr Mcdougall

Postby colonyofcells » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:55 pm

For athletes already eating lots of unrefined starch and having difficulty getting enough calories, I believe Dr Mcdougall allows the use of juice. Beet juice, blackstrap molasses and sugar cane juice are probably healthier than refined sugar, altho refined sugar is obviously cheaper.
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