OneLeggedPig wrote:
I find it (genuinely) interesting that you view veganism as religious. I’ve always thought of it as just a rational decision based on rational reasons. I think religion is based on faith (which is fine), veganism on rational thought.
My choices are along the lines of "I don't have to be part of harming sentient beings, so why would I?"
I'm not seeing Veganism being based on rational thought. It's members seem really, really, culty. Brainwashed. Irrational.
I'm thinking of people like Alexandra Jamieson. She was a Vegan for over a decade but eventually gave it up. For two years she secretly bought and consumed meat in her home because of shame and fear from backlash of other Vegans. That's culty. Very culty.
I'm thinking of websites that try to publicly shame-ex vegans. That's culty.
I'm thinking of Ellen Degeneres and the Vegan hate directed against her when she revealed she ate some eggs. That's culty.
I could go on and on but I think you get the point.
I respect your position on not being a part of harming sentient beings but the world is not black and white. Do we support the vital use of animals in research to develope treatments and cures for children with cancer? Do we allow hunters to go out and keep the deer population under control? If we don't they're going to destroy their enviroment, many people are going to be hurt and killed with deers through their vehicle's windshields. Is it unethical to "own" a house cat when he will live 15 years happy or allow him to be "free," to struggle for survival and die at 4 years old. My position is, humans come first and always will. That's why I'll never be a vegan and reject the ideology.
So, is the consensus opinion among vegans that it is wrong to have pets?
Among the real hardcore, deep into it Vegans it is.
Animal liberation brother! What gives you the right to own another sentient being you wicked slave master!
I have another Vegan ethics example for you.
I heard a Vegan say if a female polar bear died and left her cub alone, that cub should be left to die. But what if some biologist wanted to rescue it and keep it alive. No, was the vegan responce. It should die and not be "enslaved" by humans.
Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.