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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby katgirl55 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:07 pm

Thrasymachus wrote: You must be seriously confused. When you are less than 1% there is no such thing as bad publicity or advocacy as the alternative that people like you seem to prefer is no advocacy. And she was partially right in her criticism of Pewdiepie, which I could not listen to fully as it was ditsy generation Twitter/millenial nonsense from both parties.


It does not surprise me much that people like Pewdiepie exist and people pay attention. The last few weeks have been spent wondering why on earth people would want to walk around catching virtual creatures on their phones. I just shake my head and envy the time they have to waste on these pursuits. And that is what passes for accomplishment these days - the guys who caught all the creatures are famous while the engineers who made it all possible are anonymous. But to get back on point: this is all a waste of time worrying over what some internet stars are saying to each other. Veganism survived being on the far fringes of society, and will survive getting a little more notoriety on YouTube.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Snow White » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:50 am

katgirl55 wrote:I think we are giving too much credit to these YouTube video pseudo-celebrities. Since when do they represent the entire vegan community??


I think this is well said.
It's somehow sad that these dramas also take place beside social media channels.
I always ask myself why "we" just can't come along with each other. Why does one vegan way of eating have to be better than another? We are all playing for the same team, aren't we? Everybody should be able to choose on their own what he or she prefers without being pseudo-blamed by other vegans.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Gail » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:16 am

Why are we all 'vegan' .?

Because we want PEACE in the world.
Possibly to stop the hurting in the world.
Get over yourself
Be the better person
What's your problem?

peace, gail
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Gail » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:24 am

Wildly overestimated: how hard it is to go vegan !
Wildly underestimated: how very much it matters !

Love to all
Peace, Gail x

(all creatures great and small; you too.)
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby bbq » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:40 pm

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Adelaide fitness guru Freelee the Banana Girl accused of copying, deleting rivals in war for lucrative online video advertising
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-fitness-guru-freelee-the-banana-girl-accused-of-copying-deleting-rivals-in-war-for-lucrative-online-video-advertising/news-story/a99d572af5797ca3991e821a698fa4b6 wrote:BIKINI-CLAD, banana-loving social media celebrity Leanne Ratcliffe is at war again — this time with fellow vegans who claim she plagiarises their work and has her competitors deleted.

Ms Ratcliffe, better known as “Freelee the Banana Girl”, is at the centre of international drama in the highly-lucrative world of online health and animal rights videos.

Vegan bloggers claim the Adelaide-based fitness guru is having YouTube shut down rival sites by filing paperwork asserting her copyright has been infringed.

They say Ms Ratcliffe and her partner, Harley “Durianrider” Johnstone, want to dominate YouTube’s profitable advertising model by erasing their competition.

However, in a tearful video response, Ms Ratcliffe says her detractors simply want to “destroy” her.

“There are a--h---- out there who want to get me deleted ... yes, even vegans,” she says in one video.

“The ego of some people is so f---ing huge ... they don’t give a f--k about the animals, they give a f--k about their egos and destroying me.”

Ms Ratcliffe’s YouTube channel, which promotes raw eating and “high-carb vegan living” options, has more than 700,000 subscribers.

In 2015 she and Mr Johnstone were sued by Kayla Itsines, founder of the Bikini Body Guide, for defamation — the case was settled out of court.

Documents filed in the case asserted the pair were foul-mouthed parasites, highlighting Mr Johnstone’s claim he could retire on the advertising profits of “pimping” Ms Ratcliffe online.

The latest controversy was sparked by a video posted two weeks ago by Californian-based animal rights activists Danielle and Chelsea, known as the “Get Upset Girls”.

In it, they accuse Ms Ratcliffe — whom they had met at a vegan convention three months earlier — of using footage from one of their videos without credit.

“(At first) I was really confused and thought ‘maybe it’s a mistake’, (later) I felt sick to my stomach ... Freelee took nearly all of my video,” Danielle says in the clip.

“By stealing my content and posting it as her own, she has prevented anyone from seeing what I’m doing ... (she has) taken away the rights of an activist.”

At the same time, other users accused Ms Ratcliffe and Mr Johnstone of filing copyright infringement notices with YouTube to have their sites shut down.

They claim recently-deleted channel “The Vegan Cheetah” was wiped following a complaint by the couple, and had more subscribers than either Ms Ratcliffe or Mr Johnstone.

Ms Ratcliffe, however, claims she is the victim of baseless copyright notifications and that her site is the one at risk of being deleted.

“We are on the edge ... (people should) have a purpose greater than your ego,” she says.

Neither she nor Mr Johnstone responded to The Advertiser’s request for comment before deadline.
No kidding, it's gone mainstream.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby -mermaid- » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:02 pm

I followed Freelee and Durianrider for years...so odd to think of that now. It's all gotten so crazy.

Then again, I came to the vegan world years ago originally via Matt Monarch and David Wolfe. :lol: :lol: :crybaby:
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby healthyvegan » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:47 pm

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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby -mermaid- » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:51 pm

healthyvegan wrote:her response https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meQmTaM6uNE


Welp...I dunno...if someone claims to be "all about the animals," howsabout they shut it and just BE all about the animals? :nod:

It's all so stupid.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby bbq » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:43 am

WE REACT [AGAIN] TO FREELEE'S BULLYING & SLANDER
http://youtu.be/I-9qCxENGi8
We’re setting the record straight with DAMNING evidence. We do NOT give in to bullies, even when they try to play the victim card.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby BlueGene » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:21 am

bbq wrote:WE REACT [AGAIN] TO FREELEE'S BULLYING & SLANDER
http://youtu.be/I-9qCxENGi8
We’re setting the record straight with DAMNING evidence. We do NOT give in to bullies, even when they try to play the victim card.


Durianrider and Freelee really need to stop trying to intimidate people who have actual intellect.

Also worth a look is their previous video mentioning their experience of Chelsea's conversion to veganism using the proverbial honey rather than vinegar: https://youtu.be/ZLZea7X8RBY

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If the goal is to turn as many people away from veganism as possible, yeah, it's amazing! People like Sorsha and the rest of the radical wing nuts are an embarrassment. They are the reason that intelligent people like Dr. McDougall himself, distance themselves from the word "vegan."

This video by Dombower is almost exactly how I felt when I saw Pewdiepie's response to Sorsha:

https://youtu.be/-cmQuWPKH5A
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Chikiwing » Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:49 pm

For anyone else, like me, who gets bored of the drama rather quickly, this is a good plant based youtube channel with information you can actually use in your life,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCkaUyRbta8
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby BlueGene » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:29 pm

Chikiwing wrote:For anyone else, like me, who gets bored of the drama rather quickly, this is a good plant based youtube channel with information you can actually use in your life,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCkaUyRbta8


Welll, this is a drama thread. I do like Cooking with Plants but wouldn't that be better suited for the Food and Recipes forum?
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby Chikiwing » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:12 pm

BlueGene wrote:
Chikiwing wrote:For anyone else, like me, who gets bored of the drama rather quickly, this is a good plant based youtube channel with information you can actually use in your life,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCkaUyRbta8


Welll, this is a drama thread. I do like Cooking with Plants but wouldn't that be better suited for the Food and Recipes forum?

These youtube dramas are all about virtue signaling, getting view counts, and the money, money, money. But, whatever floats people's boats.
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby healthyvegan » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:37 pm

Don't forget how Dr. McDougall does this :)

Steve Jobs
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2011nl/nov/jobs.htm

Bill Clinton
https://www.drmcdougall.com/health/educ ... s-madness/

these kids are the entertainment equivalent
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Re: vegan youtube drama

Postby bbq » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:03 pm

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