How does The Starch Solution differ than WFPB plus Starch?

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How does The Starch Solution differ than WFPB plus Starch?

Postby Rhythm » Tue May 03, 2016 6:34 pm

Hi! I shared with a friend about The Starch Solution.
I started TSS three days ago.

That person said TSS is the WFPB program with a higher percentage of starch.
They said their BGL spiked and cannot or won't eat much starch.

I've studied TSS, read about it, watched 15+ Dr McDougall videos,
read many suggested links within this website, etc . . . . .
But, I do not have an answer, nor know where to look. Please help.

How similar or dissimilar is The Starch Solution compared to
Whole Food Plant Based programs?

I am thinking TSS has no oil, no meat, no dairy, minimal nuts, no eggs, no MSG,
not too many fruits, no caffeine, no aspartame, etc. They seem very similar.

Is higher percentage of starch intake the main difference, and why?
Type-2 for 15 years. A1C at 7. Humulin-N, Humulin-R and Metformin.
Lost 30 pounds following WFPB plan since 6/2015.
4/2016 I've 30 pounds to go. Went from a BMI-34 to a BMI-31.
5/1/2016 began The Starch Solution nutrition plan. Want off meds.
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Re: How does The Starch Solution differ than WFPB plus Starc

Postby colonyofcells » Tue May 03, 2016 6:50 pm

Unrefined starch is a good fuel. To avoid blood sugar spikes after meals, I exercise after each meal.
In Whole Food Plant Based, it is possible to get most calories from :
1 fruit (fruit based diet)
2 starch (starch solution of Dr McDougall)
3 nuts, seeds, avocado (high fat)
4 beans, peas, lentils (high protein)
5 vegetables like beets, carrots, radish, etc (similar to Dr Joel Fuhrman diet).
Of the many options, starch solution is the cheapest so that is what I like bec I am poor.
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Re: How does The Starch Solution differ than WFPB plus Starc

Postby arugula » Tue May 03, 2016 7:51 pm

fruit and non-starchy veg based diets can be lots of fun and colorful but also incredibly expensive and time-consuming. in addition they tend to be not very satiating. on them, one can expect to eat massive volumes but never really feel full. there aren't any populations in history that based their diets around nonstarchy vegs and fruit. but some people seem to make it work. not many. or maybe they are not telling about their cheats!
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Re: How does The Starch Solution differ than WFPB plus Starc

Postby Rhythm » Tue May 03, 2016 9:03 pm

Arugula! What a wonder comment. Very informative.

Today is my third day on The Starch Solution.
I've cut my insulin by 50% for the third day.
I'm eating lots of starch and other good foods,
exercising and still working with BGLs less than 100 ~ I cannot believe it!!!

I was extremely very nervous adding starch and reducing insulin.

Your comment that starch foods are inexpensive compared
to fruits and fresh vegetables is awareness amazing :shock:

Your comment about fruit and vegetables being
time consuming is way too totally awesome. THANK YOU!!!
I spend way too much time driving, shopping, lugging,
hauling, cleaning, slicing, dicing, preparing, cooking,
serving and eating vegetables and fruits.
Type-2 for 15 years. A1C at 7. Humulin-N, Humulin-R and Metformin.
Lost 30 pounds following WFPB plan since 6/2015.
4/2016 I've 30 pounds to go. Went from a BMI-34 to a BMI-31.
5/1/2016 began The Starch Solution nutrition plan. Want off meds.
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Re: How does The Starch Solution differ than WFPB plus Starc

Postby Rhythm » Tue May 03, 2016 9:19 pm

colonyofcells wrote:Unrefined starch is a good fuel. To avoid blood sugar spikes after meals, I exercise after each meal.
In Whole Food Plant Based, it is possible to get most calories from :
1 fruit (fruit based diet)
2 starch (starch solution of Dr McDougall)
3 nuts, seeds, avocado (high fat)
4 beans, peas, lentils (high protein)
5 vegetables like beets, carrots, radish, etc (similar to Dr Joel Fuhrman diet).
Of the many options, starch solution is the cheapest so that is what I like bec I am poor.


Thanks, Colony.
Do I correctly discern your comment that TSS is cheaper than WFPB programs?
Other WFPB plans allow more portions of fruits, nuts, seeds, avocados, etc.
Are these the main differences?

Or, does increasing starch to 50%-70% of food calories ingested
actually have a biological, or digestive, or system chemistry,
or enzyme compatibility, etc. advantages than food plans
that avoid, minimize or reduce starch percentages?

What do you think? PLMK. Thank you,
Type-2 for 15 years. A1C at 7. Humulin-N, Humulin-R and Metformin.
Lost 30 pounds following WFPB plan since 6/2015.
4/2016 I've 30 pounds to go. Went from a BMI-34 to a BMI-31.
5/1/2016 began The Starch Solution nutrition plan. Want off meds.
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Re: How does The Starch Solution differ than WFPB plus Starc

Postby colonyofcells » Tue May 03, 2016 10:12 pm

Dr mcdougall says fruits provide less satiety but he does allow lots of fruits for active people like athletes. Fruit is mostly sugar which is a good fuel for highly active people. Fruit has less fiber than vegetables and personally, I miss the fiber when I eat fruits. I now prefer to eat vegetables over fruits. Vegetables are also cheaper than fruits.
High fat diets are ok for highly active people since fat is also a good fuel. Less active people tend to gain weight on high fat diets.
Dr mcdougall also warns about too much protein being hard on the kidneys. Excess protein produces toxins that need to be eliminated from the body by the filtering of the kidneys and out via the urine.
Unrefined starches are also a lot cheaper than vegetables so I do not buy lots of vegetables to save money.
If not overconsuming protein, the BUN blood test will come out excellent.
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A blood urea nitrogen (BUN) test is used to determine how well your kidneys are working. It does this by measuring the amount of urea nitrogen in the blood. Urea nitrogen is a waste product that’s created in the liver when the body breaks down proteins. Normally, the kidneys filter out this waste, and urinating removes it from the body.
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