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Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Through Our Artery Lining

Postby bbq » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:19 am

Dr. George S. Abela's experiment:

http://youtu.be/zzUMB5PTsLI

Cholesterol Crystals Cause Mechanical Damage to Biological Membranes:A Proposed Mechanism of Plaque Rupture and Erosion Leading toArterial Thrombosis
http://www.researchgate.net/profile/George_Abela/publication/7516894_Cholesterol_crystals_cause_mechanical_damage_to_biological_membranes_a_proposed_mechanism_of_plaque_rupture_and_erosion_leading_to_arterial_thrombosis/links/545e55da0cf2c1a63bfc1d27.pdf

Cholesterol crystals incite inflammation in coronary arteries
http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2010/cholesterol-crystals-incite-inflammation-in-coronary-arteries/

Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Though Our Artery Lining
http://youtu.be/-pbT2zb-I44
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/cholesterol-crystals-may-tear-though-our-artery-lining/

Now that's (pun intended) crystal clear, isn't it?

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Re: Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Though Our Artery Lining

Postby soul food » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:28 am

the first video has no sound but maybe it is not supposed to?

One minute in on the second video and he is still speaking Italian.


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Re: Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Through Our Artery Lining

Postby bbq » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:36 am

Ouch, that turned out to be another George Abela from the Republic of Malta, sorry about that and link was removed.

Here's a quote from Dr. Greger's video:
A test tube is one thing, but can you actually see crystals poking out in autopsy specimens? Yes, cholesterol crystals piercing the arterial plaque were found in patients who died with acute coronary syndrome. Extensive protrusion of cholesterol crystals into the middle of the artery. What makes us think it was the crystals that actually burst the plaque?

All patients who died of acute heart attacks had perforating cholesterol crystals like this sticking out of their plaques but no crystals were found perforating the arteries of people who had severe atherosclerosis, but died first of other, non-cardiac causes. This can explain why dramatically lowering cholesterol levels with diet or drugs can reduce the risk of fatal heart attack, by pulling cholesterol out of the artery wall, decreasing the risk of crystalizing these cholesterol needles that may pop your plaque.
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Re: Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Through Our Artery Lining

Postby dteresa » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:51 am

and I was feeling so good when I got up this morning.

Cholesterol skeptics will have to explain this. If I understood it correctly, it is this crystallization that causes the inflammation, not the other way around. And if statins also decrease cholesterol crystallization maybe I will have to take a new look at statins. They seemed to help Esselstyn's first group of patients.

According to one of the articles, the higher your cholesterol, the more the crystallization and if that is true then those who claim that their high cholesterol and LDL numbers do not signify artery disease are sadly mistaken. I cannot explain the fact that some with sky high cholesterol numbers never experience heart or artery disease or why some on a plant diet never get their cholesterol numbers very low but continue to have good health.

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Re: Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Through Our Artery Lining

Postby bbq » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:06 pm

I just found links to the full text version of Dr. Abela's studies here:

http://invivo.msu.edu/uploads/pdfs/resources/Abela_2009.pdf

http://invivo.msu.edu/uploads/pdfs/resources/Abela_2010.pdf

Maybe those deniers could simply claim the studies mentioned were inconclusive after they've read something else?

http://www.chem.uci.edu/~potma/Jeff_BPJ12.pdf

http://www.invasivecardiology.com/articles/parallel-cholesterol-crystals-sign-impending-plaque-rupture

I'm taking this for my cholesterol and they just happened to figure it out 60 years ago:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14350806

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1938010/
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Re: Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Through Our Artery Lining

Postby dteresa » Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:59 pm

what causes the cholesterol to crystallize? Don't crystals usually form when the substance reaches a certain saturation in liquid? Seems to me this means that the higher your cholesterol numbers the more likely to crystallize and thus the suggestion that getting your total number below 150 and LDL below 50 to 70 means it is less likely to occur?

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Re: Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Through Our Artery Lining

Postby jay kaye » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:32 pm

dteresa wrote:and I was feeling so good when I got up this morning.

............. And if statins also decrease cholesterol crystallization maybe I will have to take a new look at statins......

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According to Dr. Robert and his report on the JUPITER study, any way you can get your LDL down below 60 will affect the plaque build up. The problem is that for most people on a SAD diet the statin dosage will have to be very high to accomplish this. So diet is an important component in accomplishing that goal. If on has proven disease and if one can get there, LDL<60 by food alone, great. But if food alone does not get a person to that level, then statins should be looked at.

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Re: Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Through Our Artery Lining

Postby flabingo » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:46 pm

I lowered my LDL from 161 with a statin to 52 without a statin, by changing my diet. The best evidence for me was that my BP went from 140/90 to 117/79 daily. I am amazed at the change, I was never overweight. My reward was better health.
Any doctor that does not suggest a diet program like Dr Esselstyn "s before a statin would not be a doctor that I would recommend. I also try to limit X-rays and any unnecessary tests.
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Re: Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Through Our Artery Lining

Postby jay kaye » Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:57 pm

[quote="flabingo"............
Any doctor that does not suggest a diet program like Dr Esselstyn "s before a statin would not be a doctor that I would recommend................[/quote]

Just to be clear, Dr William Clifford Roberts, does support both Dr. McDougall and Dr Esselstyn. He was a speaker at the McDougall ASW a few years ago, He is a Master of the American College of Cardiology, a leading cardiovascular pathologist, and the current editor of both the American Journal of Cardiology and the Baylor University Medical Center Proceedings.

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Re: Cholesterol Crystals May Tear Through Our Artery Lining

Postby bbq » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:18 am

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How to Prevent a Heart Attack
http://nutritionfacts.org/2017/03/28/how-to-prevent-a-heart-attack/

Dr. Greger's latest blog post mentioned the anatomy of our #1 killer in the world:

http://www.who.int/cardiovascular_diseases/resources/atlas/en/
An estimated 17 million people die of CVDs, particularly heart attacks and strokes, every year.
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