A Vegan diet fails to prevent heart disease!

[GeoffreyLevens]

Interesting to note that while soy protein does increase IGF-1 it also increases IGF-1 Binding Protein which bonds to it and renders it inactive. Also the stats show a very significant reduction in both breast cancers and recurrance of same and also prostate cancers in proportion to amount of soy consumed.

[JeffN]

Interesting to note that while soy protein does increase IGF-1 it also increases IGF-1 Binding Protein which bonds to it and renders it inactive. Also the stats show a very significant reduction in both breast cancers and recurrance of same and also prostate cancers in proportion to amount of soy consumed.

Yes, in populations consuming traditional minimally processed soy foods not highly processed soy food products & isolated soy proteins

In Health
Jeff

[GeoffreyLevens]

Interesting to note that while soy protein does increase IGF-1 it also increases IGF-1 Binding Protein which bonds to it and renders it inactive. Also the stats show a very significant reduction in both breast cancers and recurrance of same and also prostate cancers in proportion to amount of soy consumed.

Yes, in populations consuming traditional minimally processed soy foods not highly processed soy food products & isolated soy proteins

In Health
Jeff

Thank you. My general m.o. is minimally processed, no extracts or concentrates, only processing I could do in my kitchen with common kitchen tools.

[bbq]

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/is-miso-healthy/

But, there was no significant association with the consumption of miso soup. This may be because the carcinogenic effects of the salt are counteracted by the anti-carcinogenic effects of the soy, effectively canceling out the risk. And, if we made garlicky soup with some scallions thrown in, it may drop our cancer risk even lower.

But, cancer isn’t the primary reason people are told to avoid salt. What about miso soup and high blood pressure? Well, it may be the same kind of thing. The salt in miso is squeezing our blood pressures up, but the soy protein in miso may be relaxing our blood pressures down. So, for example, if you compare the effects of soy milk to cow’s milk—and, to make it fairer, compare soy milk to skim milk, to avoid the saturated butterfat—soy milk can much more dramatically improve blood pressure among women with hypertension. But, would the effect be dramatic enough to counter all the salt in miso? Japanese researchers decided to put it to the test.

They followed men and women in their 60s who started out with normal blood pressure, and followed them for four years to see who was more likely to be diagnosed with hypertension in that time—those who had two or more bowls of miso soup a day, or those that had one or less. Two bowls a day would be like adding a half-teaspoon of salt to one’s daily diet, yet those who ate two bowls or more appeared to have five times lower risk of becoming hypertensive. So, maybe the anti-hypertensive effects of the soy in the miso exceed the hypertensive effects of the salt.

We just wanna pick the right organic whole soy-based / GMO-free miso with relatively low percentage of calories from fat, now it's time for just a bit of label-reading exercises:

When "fat free" really means 100% fat
http://youtu.be/1pD3-j0GWdo

Cutting The Fat?? - Jeff Novick
http://www.jeffnovick.com/RD/Articles/Entries/1998/11/23_Cutting_The_Fat.html

Too good to be true or what? Maybe the serving size is only 1 teaspoon and that's why they're getting away with 0 gram of fat?

http://www.southrivermiso.com/store/p/1-Sweet-Tasting-Brown-Rice-Miso.html

Serving Size 1 tsp. (6g) Servings Per Container: 60; Amount Per Serving: Calories 10, Fat cal. 0; Total Fat 0g

http://www.southrivermiso.com/store/p/11-Sweet-White.html

Serving Size 1 tsp. (5g) Servings Per Container: 60; Amount Per Serving - Calories 15, Fat cal 0; Total Fat 0g

Now we've got 2 teaspoons but it's still the same deal:

http://great-eastern-sun.com/product-category/miso-master-organic-miso/
http://great-eastern-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/miso-master-brown-rice-miso-nutrition-facts-8oz.jpg

Calories 15
Calories from fat 0

http://great-eastern-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/miso-master-country-barley-miso-nutrition-facts-8oz.jpg

Calories 15
Calories from fat 0

https://great-eastern-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/miso-master-mellow-white-miso-nutrition-facts-8oz.jpg

Calories 20
Calories from fat 0

http://great-eastern-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/miso-master-sweet-white-miso-nutrition-facts-8oz.jpg

Calories 20
Calories from fat 0

http://great-eastern-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/miso-master-traditional-red-miso-nutrition-facts-8oz.jpg

Calories 15
Calories from fat 0

Finally we've got something that's more likely to tell us the truth with 1 tablespoon?

http://www.edenfoods.com/store/mugi-miso-non-gmo-organic-soy-barley-reclosable-pouch.html
http://www.edenfoods.com/store/genmai-miso-non-gmo-organic-soy-brown-rice-reclosable-pouch.html
http://www.edenfoods.com/store/hacho-miso-non-gmo-organic-soybean-reclosable-pouch.html
http://www.edenfoods.com/store/shiro-miso-non-gmo-organic-rice-soy-reclosable-pouch.html
http://www.edenfoods.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/107760-2.jpg

Calories 25
Calories from fat 5

http://www.edenfoods.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/107780-2.jpg

Calories 25
Calories from fat 5

http://www.edenfoods.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/107810-2_2.jpg

Calories 40
Calories from fat 15

http://www.edenfoods.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/107840-2.jpg

Calories 30
Calories from fat 5

Shiro (white) miso turned out to have lowest percentage of calories from fat and it also happened to contain the lowest amount of sodium. Too bad they don't sell that variety in bulk:

http://www.edenfoods.com/store/bulk/miso.html

For some reasons they've got 3 varieties listed with 1 tablespoon but they're showing 1 teaspoon for Natto Miso:

http://www.edenfoods.com/store/images/products/nlea/107580.gif

Calories 15
Calories from fat 1

Do you guys have any recommendations for organic whole soy-based miso that's GMO-free as well?

[GeoffreyLevens]

My favorite brand of miso by far that has 100% soy miso and also brown rice miso, barley miso, and garbanzo miso. Salt content varies from the lowest which is still a very high salt condiment to a lot higher.

Great Eastern Sun-Miso Master

[JeffN]

Do you guys have any recommendations for organic whole soy-based miso that's GMO-free as well?

Don't be fooled.

High sodium intake per serving and per day is an issue...

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=23557&p=514226&#p514226

It's more then HTN and cancer...

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=23557&p=555442#p555442

Keep that in mind when making choices.

In Health
Jeff

[bbq]

Cool, thanks Jeff and I'll stick with a few times per month then:



Seriously, I was just fooling around when I mentioned that 22-pound pack in bulk and I wouldn't really have miso soup more than once per week. When I do order that online, it's only because I'm adding something expensive (almost a buck per ounce, no kidding) to hit that $60 minimum for free international shipping:

http://www.iherb.com/pr/eden-foods-certified-organic-shiro-miso-12-1-oz-345-g/12267

[JeffN]

Cool, thanks Jeff and I'll stick with a few times per month then:

Great.

That is what I call an IUD (Intelligent Use of Data.)

In Health
Jeff