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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby HealthFreak » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:00 am

We all have glyphosate in our systems thanks to Monsanto. Why not add arsenic to the mix?
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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby bunsofaluminum » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:06 am

here's a statement...granted, from the rice growers assoc or something...

http://www.usarice.com/doclib/230/6245.pdf


I found it by going googling. This statement was on the top of the search page.

and there is a paragraph in there that I was expecting to see when I went looking:

“We understand that ‘arsenic’ is an alarming word, but we believe it is important for consumers to know that arsenic is a naturally occurring element in our air, water, rocks and soil. This is how plants uptake arsenic. As a result, it’s always been in the food supply and is in many healthy foods that are consumed by billions of people every day. No arsenical pesticides are used when growing U.S. rice.


The rest of the page was current events news stories EXCEPT at the bottom, where someone has done some deeper research, and that is here:

http://www.livingsafe.com.au/food/296-r ... c-concerns

this website has a LOT of links about the issue. It was near the bottom of the first google page.

So...one google search, and I found two resources telling a sane, balanced story about this issue. Anyone can do it. All it takes is internet access...the library for someone without home internet...NOT difficult to do.
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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby danmc » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:25 pm

danmc wrote:I've been eating about 10 pounds of uncooked rice a week. I have it almost all 3 meals a day.

But I've been buying it from an Asian store recently, and I believe it's from China.


Turns out my "Chinese rice" is from California. D'oh! :oops:

I'm not even sure if you can buy China-grown rice in the U.S., which would make sense considering that we grow so much here that we export it and the cost for shipping it here from China would be prohibitive.
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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby rickfm » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:58 pm

I just checked a 5 lb bag of white rice I have and it has on it:

"HINODE is proud to bring you the finest rice from California and around the world."

I wonder what that "around the world" means. The front of the bag just says "Product of USA."

Here's a statement from the CEO of Lundberg Family Farms on arsenic and rice from this past February.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq2tIJBNKOY

As far as American rice goes, it sounds like California is the best choice.
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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby bunsofaluminum » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:24 pm

I soooo would not worry about this.

Seems that arsenic in this, that, or the other food comes up as a topic once in a while, and every time, someone remembers to remind the public that arsenic is an element that is everywhere: in the soil, in the water, in the air.

can it be concentrated in a natural source and bring the body more arsenic than the usual stuff floating around everywhere? Sure.

but that's why we have a LIVER. Our bodies are wonderfully aclimated to this world, and that's part of it.

It just ticks me off that a grain is going to get all kinds of ugly negative publicity that it doesn't deserve. and I'm going to continue eating my rice.

Heck, I'm gonna cook my rice with MUSHROOMS, because weren't we just talking about this somehwere else, about how dangerous mushrooms are, raw? :roll:

I'm gonna keep eating clean, and I'm NOT going to let this bother me.
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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby HealthFreak » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:03 pm

I just had big bowl of rice today for lunch. I feel fiiiiiiiiinnne.... :)
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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby veggylvr » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:26 am

On the national news last night, they said that even the products with the highest concentrations were still less than water, so the anchor asked, "So, why should we worry?", and this 'expert' said because most people don't have just the typical service size. But what's the serving size of water? Some people drink water all day - or use it to cook their rice. :)
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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby ulialen » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:45 am

Hi,
i havent understood.
Is it sure to eat rice or not? Because i eat at lunch everyday rice.
And most of all i give to my daughter of 20 mounths rice milk (1 glass per day i think). So i am worried of that. I have just stopped milk rice to my daughter and substitute it with oat drink.
But i also eat rice at lunch. and my wife is pregant and also she eat rice.

It would be very important if mcdougall or someone for him could explain clearly this argument because it is very very important.
We are speaking of the most popular food of the world, the less allergenic.

Maybe someone that know some country with sure production of rice.

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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby danmc » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:16 am

ulalien,

I believe that this is a U.S. issue mainly since we have a large amount of arsenic in our soil due to previous pesticide use. I posted a link in a comment I made earlier that talks about rice in different countries, so you should find out where your rice is coming from.

Edit: looking back at the article, it says to avoid European rice, particularly from Italy!
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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby ulialen » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:29 am

danmc wrote:ulalien,

I believe that this is a U.S. issue mainly since we have a large amount of arsenic in our soil due to previous pesticide use. I posted a link in a comment I made earlier that talks about rice in different countries, so you should find out where your rice is coming from.

Edit: looking back at the article, it says to avoid European rice, particularly from Italy!


Yes. i have read. as always italian people have to make them recognize in all the world...

I have searched nutritional values for basmati rice especially for minerals (iron,zync etc) and vitamins and difference between basmati and brown rice because i want to substitute with basmati.

Anyone know the difference and the nutritional values especially minerals for basmati?

and the same for red rice if someone know.

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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby bunsofaluminum » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:59 am

here is a website that shows in easy-to-grasp charts, what the various nutrients of foods are. You just enter your food in the search, and it pops up a page showing the various data

http://nutritiondata.self.com/

I did a search on brown rice and found out that brown rice is very rich in amino acids, and contains minerals and some vitamins. I couldn't get it to show me anything about red rice or basmati rice.

the search tool is in the top right corner of the website.

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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby ulialen » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:23 am

bunsofaluminum wrote:here is a website that shows in easy-to-grasp charts, what the various nutrients of foods are. You just enter your food in the search, and it pops up a page showing the various data

http://nutritiondata.self.com/

I did a search on brown rice and found out that brown rice is very rich in amino acids, and contains minerals and some vitamins. I couldn't get it to show me anything about red rice or basmati rice.

the search tool is in the top right corner of the website.

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Hi,
thanks.
However yes, it dont show nutritional information for basmati and red rice.
I cant find these also in other place.
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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby AlwaysAgnes » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:59 am

ulialen wrote:
danmc wrote:ulalien,

I believe that this is a U.S. issue mainly since we have a large amount of arsenic in our soil due to previous pesticide use. I posted a link in a comment I made earlier that talks about rice in different countries, so you should find out where your rice is coming from.

Edit: looking back at the article, it says to avoid European rice, particularly from Italy!


Yes. i have read. as always italian people have to make them recognize in all the world...

I have searched nutritional values for basmati rice especially for minerals (iron,zync etc) and vitamins and difference between basmati and brown rice because i want to substitute with basmati.

Anyone know the difference and the nutritional values especially minerals for basmati?

and the same for red rice if someone know.

Ale


http://www.ehow.com/facts_5708238_nutri ... -rice.html
http://www.himalayan-red-rice.com/
http://www.truestarhealth.com/Notes/1661002.html
http://www.livestrong.com/article/25291 ... formation/
http://www.vegrecipes4u.com/health-bene ... -rice.html
http://www.ehow.com/nutrition-in-rice/
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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby ulialen » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:15 pm

AlwaysAgnes wrote:
ulialen wrote:
danmc wrote:ulalien,

I believe that this is a U.S. issue mainly since we have a large amount of arsenic in our soil due to previous pesticide use. I posted a link in a comment I made earlier that talks about rice in different countries, so you should find out where your rice is coming from.

Edit: looking back at the article, it says to avoid European rice, particularly from Italy!


Yes. i have read. as always italian people have to make them recognize in all the world...

I have searched nutritional values for basmati rice especially for minerals (iron,zync etc) and vitamins and difference between basmati and brown rice because i want to substitute with basmati.

Anyone know the difference and the nutritional values especially minerals for basmati?

and the same for red rice if someone know.

Ale


http://www.ehow.com/facts_5708238_nutri ... -rice.html
http://www.himalayan-red-rice.com/
http://www.truestarhealth.com/Notes/1661002.html
http://www.livestrong.com/article/25291 ... formation/
http://www.vegrecipes4u.com/health-bene ... -rice.html
http://www.ehow.com/nutrition-in-rice/


Great links!
Thanks.

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Re: Arsenic in Rice? New report

Postby alias » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:35 pm

At the risk of mentioning Dr. Oz on this board, I heard him today on The View talking about this topic. I thought it was interesting that in the UK they already advises against rice milk for children under 5. I'm not sure if it due to arsenic or for some other reason.

This article sums up what he said on the show.

Inorganic arsenic, commonly used in the past in pesticides and still used to treat timber, is considered more toxic than organic forms. The US government put a stop to the use of inorganic arsenical pesticides in the 1980s. However, inorganic arsenic residues still remains in the soil. Plus, Consumer Reports further suggests “other arsenical ingredients in animal feed to prevent disease and promote growth are still permitted,” and inorganic arsenic may lace “fertilizer made from poultry waste.”

Furthermore, health experts are concerned about arsenic exposure in childhood – even in utero. For example, a developing fetus may be exposed to arsenic in the pregnant mother’s environment (arsenic crosses the placenta). Research suggests that chronic childhood arsenic exposure may be associated with cognitive impairment (lower IQ scores) and an increased risk of illness early in life.

It is recommended that you avoid offering rice and rice products as a staple to kids under age five. Other countries have made similar recommendations, including the UK Food Standards Agency which advises that infants and young children should not consume rice milk as a substitute for cow’s milk, breast milk, or infant formula. Although we have more to learn about arsenic’s effect on our health when in the food supply, why take a risk on the health of your child, especially since side effects may not be apparent for years.

Food companies have not been required by the FDA to have arsenic abatement as part of food processing. What is needed is a call to action to stimulate innovation and reward companies that invest in healthier products.

Currently the FDA still decides against stricter regulations. The FDA states that they will wait until their full analysis is complete before determining “whether or not to issue additional recommendations." FDA Commissioner Margaret A Hamburg, M.D. provided further comment on the issue: “We understand that consumers are concerned about this matter. FDA is committed to ensuring that we understand the extent to which substances such as arsenic are present in our foods, what risks they may pose, whether these risks can be minimized, and to sharing what we know.”

If you regularly consume rice and rice products, consider these suggestions and alternatives:

~ To mimic the texture of rice, use whole oats and cook with less water and without stirring.
~Try whole grains like quinoa, barley, and millet.
~ Drink hemp and almond milk rather than rice drinks.
~ Reduce arsenic in the rice you eat as an adult. Soaking the rice beforehand until it becomes clear and cooking it “pasta style” in which there is extra water in the rice pot (6 cups of water for every cup of rice) can remove 30% of arsenic.
~ Parents of children under five years should avoid feeding them rice milk or cereals.

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/breaking ... ice?page=2
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