patty wrote:If you feel intimidated... just lie by omission and eat McDougall. There are four control dramas: intimidation, integration, aloofness and poor me. Find out what control drama you are matching and when do, you will connect to make a paradigm shift.
The more you defend yourself, the weaker your position becomes. Know you are the teacher/trainer as you have been there and done that and you know what works. Remember the story of the lion raised by sheep, and one day a older lion takes the loin to the river where the loin's reflection appears.
It's always a problem with physical trainers who just parrot what they have read in a supplement
magazine masquerading as a fitness/health magazine.
The short answer is to eat all you want (while getting lots of variety) of any low fat, whole, unrefined plant-based food: starch based works.
The long answer is to educate yourself. An excellent nutrition text book that is balanced with respect to a strict vegetarian diet is the Ninth Edition, of Nutrition for Health, Fitness & Sport. This will explain in detail why a plant based diet is healthy and all the reasons why so little protein
is needed even for athletes.
One important idea I learned in Dr. Campbell's plant based nutrition courses that I missed somehow after reading The China Study several times through is that protein
powders are problematic regardless of whether they are rice protein
, pea protein
, hemp protein
, soy protein
, etc., or whey protein
, egg protein
, casein protein
. Dr. Campbell pointed out that when he observed that plant protein
does not cause chronic disease as does animal protein
he was referring to the protein
found naturally in plants -- not in a protein
powder that is plant based but has the same percentages of amino acids as an animal based powder.
Dr. McDougall has amply discussed the sulfur based amino acids and how they are naturally low in plants, but if you look at the protein
profile of so-called "plant-based protein
powders" typically they match the profile in animal based protein
powders: a refined amino acid is an amino acid regardless of its source and it is the same.
When the course covered this topic I was taken aback. I now understood why Dr. McDougall and Dr. Campbell teach that we just eat the natural plants. I once asked Dr. McDougall about my use of nutritional yeast. I was using nutritional yeast as a way to skirt the protein
powder issue. Dr. McDougall told me I didn't need it. Well, I wasn't convinced until after I completed the plant based nutrition program and finally understood what the heck was going on.
I've written this before but I think it is worth reminding: when I was a teenager working summers on a farm, we had a plant-strong diet (very little animal protein
-- lots and lots of potatoes since the farm was basically a 600 acre potato farm), we worked long and hard; we did not drink protein
drinks after two hours of moving sprinkler pipe, or bucking bales of hay, and we gained weight and extreme strength. The only experience I had with whey back then was when I would drive into town as a 14 year old (yes, in Idaho a kid could get a driver's license at 14 to drive during the day) to the local dairy to fill about 10 50 gal. drums on the truck with free whey, which was then fed to the pigs to fatten them up. Things have certainly changed.
Anyway, stop the brainwashing and eat healthfully -- set an example for everyone so they too can start throwing away the protein
drinks and start eating a plant-strong diet.