I know now that this isn't a purely hypothetical question and that there is a thread going now that the person in question has opened and it's great an open caring discussion is going on there. Still, I wanted to add something here - because I have given this question a lot of thought now.
Actually, when the SF Bay Area folks got together last weekend this kind of discussion was going on with a lot of us. Who doesn't know someone - we would like to commit to this WOE to avoid some serious on-going health issue.
And this "hypothetical" question comes up - what if it's someone that is already here and mostly on board just slipping - and then something really bad and pretty much unexpected happens. There they go off to the hospital for all kinds of tests and procedures.
First, off lets just say that person could be me and my gall bladder surgery as well - this is no hypothetical. And secondly, I wonder how many of us here are actually in that "mostly compliant" mode. I was mostly, but - a slip here and there - and one that ended me up in the hospital.
Who knew you could go so wrong in a vegan restaurant - where fat is concerned. That's what did it to me full compliance and then just one big fatty- oily - but McD in every other way - meal. Next day I was treated by the firemen, given the nitro, hooked up for readings and rushed off to two hospitals that treated me like I was a cardiac patient. I wasn't - eventually the gall bladder was the culprit and its gone now. Still I know that cardiac drill now and I really don't want to go through any of that again - two days in a hospital with the worst nitro headache a person can imagine & major pain and discomfort.
But I am not compliant still - not fully committed all the time -there are slips. So personally I couldn't dare think of advising this hypothetical person - and not feel hypocritical. So I am being my own counsel and being really honest with myself instead.
Starting today -- after reading various posts on not being 100% where diabetes and heart conditions are already known to exist -- I changed. I really must - because even though I know things are improving, I don't have a clue where I am in the reversal process.
I know I am not at the magic cholesterol number of TC less than 150 and LDL of less than 80 - under which we are apparently heart attack proof. Since I am not there I don't really know what my risk level is. BUT I know my numbers are very similar to the person who did just have this "hypothetical problem", though I don't have diabetes on top of the not perfect numbers.
So thanks Jim for posting this - because it turned me around on compliance - the dollop of maple syrup goes, the soy coffee creamer goes and there will, I sincerely hope, never be another meal out with family that I eat SAD.
Funny thing is I was still looking at my little indulgences from the only 10 calories aspect - as of last night I am looking at it like what's going on in my arteries. I learned a lot - and it was all good