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Have had these conversations this past week;

Diabetic (My friend who I haven't seen in 80 pounds, who's taking a bunch of medication and can't get his blood sugar under 300)

Me: "I was in exactly the same position. You need to get your dietary fat intake down to 10% or less, to start the process of reversing your diabetes."
Diabetic: "But I like eating the fat on my steak!"
Me: "But that comes with a side of diabetes."
Diabetic: "....."

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Co-Worker: "My wife and I tried going Vegan for a month."
Me: "Really? How did it work out for you?"
Co-Worker: "It wasn't too bad, we'd have an egg-white omelette for breakfast, and then tuna for lunch...."
Me: "Wait wait...That's not Vegan."
Co-Worker: "It's not?"
Me: "No, Vegan means no meat or animal products at all, including eggs, and dairy."
Co-Worker: "Oh, I thought it was Vegan because we ate lots of vegetables."

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Co-Worker#2: "What kind of diet are you on?"
Me: "Plant based, starch centered, whole food, low fat."
Co-Worker#2: "Huh?"
Me: "Low-fat Vegan."
Co-Worker#2: "Oh ok, you still eat chicken and fish right?"

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Co-Worker#3: "You have to drink milk to be healthy."
Me: "So you're saying that we're the only creature on the planet that needs to consume the milk of another animal, for our entire lives to be healthy?"
Co-Worker#3: Ummm...Well....Yeah?
Me: "And you actually believe that?"
Co-Worker#3: "Stop talking to me!"

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And this one is from a while back;

DIL: "My Mom is a vegetarian."
Me: "I didn't know that."
DIL: "Yeah, she only eats bison and turkey."
Me: "That's NOT vegetarian. Vegetarians don't eat ANY meat."
DIL: "Well, she doesn't eat any red meat."
Me: "Bison is red meat."
DIL: "Well, it's not store bought meat."
Me: "Your Mother raises bison?!"
DIL: "No of course not."
Me: "So where does she get the bison meat."
DIL: "She buys it at the organic grocery store."
Me: "Do you ever stop and listen to yourself?"
DIL: "Stop picking on me!"
Me: "....."

No one asked you: "Where do you get your protein?"

I've gone from 205 lbs to 190 lbs since eating this way 2 months ago. My mom said I look like a scarecrow! Of course, I'm 6'5", so I'm supposed to weight 300 lbs...

Those are funny! Love the Bison one.

In answer to the comments about protein, I've started responding, "Then, where do gorillas get their protein?" ever since someone linked to that site here. It gets people thinking for a moment at least.

Hahaha! Thanks for the morning laugh!

That was great! In the Pacific NW, people are more aware of "those vegans" so I have fewer conversations about what I eat. Though a few months ago I had a friend who was buying calcium supplements for her daughter because she couldn't consume dairy. It was an opportunity to tell her how dairy can actually cause a net calcium loss, and if she ate enough vegetables she would have no problem getting enough calcium (and in a form her growing body could actually use). Poor parents...they try to do the best they can for their kids but they're facing an uphill battle against decades of industry propaganda.

Whoa, sorry to go off there. Thanks for sharing!

I had one in which my doctor asked, "where do you get your protein?" That was the real eye opener, HE didn't know much about nutrition if he is asking a basic nutritional question. He followed that comment up with, "you need to increase your fat, about 30% a day." Thanks doc!

Those are funny, Dis!

I had several people, who all know I am vegan and that certain foods make my disease act up, ask me if I ate eggs on Easter, as an exception.


I said, "No, do you smoke crack on Easter?"...to myself.

Pretty funny conversations there Dis. Love it.

When I tell people what I eat - plant based, whole foods diet with no added oils...I always get the following responce:

No oil? What about olive oil, isn't that good for you? What about fish oil? What about this oil or that oil? Oil is good for you!! OMG the sky is falling!

and my reply:

The fat you eat is the fat you wear. And I have plenty :)

Usually shuts them up...

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Ha ha! This sounds too funny to be true, like something you would hear from Dave Letterman after he became a McDougaller!

Keep us laughing, Dissolution!!!

Steve! Don't you know that fat is good for the medical business?

Yeah silly me. I forgot I need to support my doctor and his drug habit.

Speaking of Letterman --

I wonder what the top 10 reasons for NOT becoming vegan are???

Dis - I think you should interview these folks again and report back to us with their thought provoking and stimulating answers.

Hehehe, I am now just addicted to laughter, ROFLOL!

This just sounds like everyone around me!

An overweight, unhealthy friend once tried to impress me by telling me he ate a bag of baby carrots.

Another overweight, unhealthy relative orders a 'healthy' salad at a restaurant, with lots of chicken and extra avocado and dressing. I think there was some garlic bread on the side too. He felt really good about himself after that salad.

Too Funny!... A good angle to create a book to teach the basic principles of this WOE. Sometimes humor gets a point across that our rational mind dismisses.

Mahalo for the share of a potential opening to our collectively herd mentality. It just takes a few lines to uproot a embedded subconscious Newtonian belief we are not a biological self-organizing living system. Asking someone to give up their fat (false beliefs) is like asking them to be slaughtered. This WOE becomes a feedback sport:) with social benefits of just because we can. Each time the cycle of destructive eating ends, the hippocampus thrives.

Aloha, patty

I work with a retired surgeon who sometimes decides to 'eat light" and just have a salad. So, he gets the chicken taco salad from the restaurant downstairs. He eats the chicken, the fried tortilla strips, guacamole, cheese, and salad dressing and doesn't touch the romaine lettuce underneath all that. But he quite seriously believes that he had a salad for lunch. I just button my lip.