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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:09 am 
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ET, you can come and cook for me anytime! Sounds absolutely delish, hun.

Sorry for your disappointment. I know it's a lot of work and such a blow when it's not enjoyed and appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:50 am 
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Well, I ate it all again last night and it was just as AWESOME as I remembered. Seriously--that dal soup is FABULOUS. I'll find the recipe online again and post it. Anyone who can't appreciate THAT doesn't deserve to be cooked for! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:23 am 
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People have a FAT tooth as well as a SALT tooth. I heard someone say that fat carries the flavor, my DH doesn't care for the potatoes I make without the oil, he's not a big salt eater but he does like to put fat on things. Fortunately he's trim, in great shape with very low cholesterol.

When I have people over who are open to plant food but don't eat fat and salt free food, I still put out some food that has been salted or have a little more fat to appease them.

Looking forward to the recipe!


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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:37 am 
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Your food sounds yummy, please post the soup recipe.

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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
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I will! I've got to dig it up (paper version) b/c I can't remember where I found it now, LOL. But I will.

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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
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I am ashamed to admit it but I occasionally watch Dr. Oz. He had a chef on who stated the reason foods tastes so good in a restaurant rather than at homes is because we "salt the S*** out of it!"


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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
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It is important to remember collectively there is a paradigm shift happening and it starts with each one of us. It is no longer just I am that I am but We are We. Families aren't born under one roof.

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wow, I thought your meal sounded wonderful! Looking forward to trying the dal soup recipe.

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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:58 am 
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patty wrote:
It is important to remember collectively there is a paradigm shift happening and it starts with each one of us. It is no longer just I am that I am but We are We. Families aren't born under one roof.

Aloha, patty


In agreement. The same when we go to other's homes, we can't expect them not to put their usual SAD fare out. It's nice when they put something out that we can enjoy as well.

On the same token we need to be aware that we cannot expect guests coming to our homes will immediately enjoy everything we make that we had to adjust our own taste buds to.

Even with a salt shaker on the side, it's not the same as seasoning during the cooking process. I still don't eat completely salt-free food myself.


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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:20 am 
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Sorry, but I don't agree (and I'm not sure what patty was even saying, LOL, but that's par for the course--her posts are always pretty opaque). And I don't appreciate the condescending attitude.

My family are not like most SAD eaters. They appreciate vegetarian food and perhaps they did enjoy what I cooked--they just didn't say anything about that, which was my point. Perhaps I am being too sensitive. There was only one bowl with much soup left in it--I'm sure that was my other niece (the non-veg one) on whom I gave up a long time ago as she would live on cheese and white bread if given a chance, LOL.

But regardless of whether anyone enjoyed it or not, the simple fact is that I'm not gonna risk my health for ANYONE. I have borderline high BP even though I McDougall and gave up caffeine. I'm not adding salt to my food for anyone! And my dad, who had a double bypass, a valve repair, and is dependent on a frakkin' pacemaker, sure as shootin' doesn't need salt added to HIS food either. The fact is that you taste salt MORE, not less, when you put it on your food at table than you do when you cook with it (per Dr. McDougall). That should be enough for anyone.

And would you honestly add FAT to your food for guests?!?! I sure hope not.

The fact is that I'm not the one with the problem. In future I'll just go back to potluck--if I have them out again they can all bring something and I will make a big pot of something I can eat. More than likely if I do that, however, we'll go back to the way it usually is--with everyone eating more of MY stuff than their own! That was my point, I guess--it was an unusual occurrence I didn't understand b/c usually what I cook is popular w/ these folks and IMO this was one of the best things I've ever made!

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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:31 am 
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ETeselle, sorry you read what I wrote as condescending. It wasn't meant to be.

And I'm not saying that you should salt your own food, but sometimes we have to make adjustments for others.

I'm always grateful when I'm invited to a home and they put out food I will enjoy. I wouldn't go back if that weren't the case.

If someone were to have the same conviction as you, but opposite, such as thinking I need to eat meat/fat/salt to become healthier that obviously wouldn't gel at all with me. And even though some of these folks know that they shouldn't be eating salt/fat, either they aren't ready to change or don't want to ever change. We can only control ourselves.

Yes, I would add fat meaning I would add nuts, avocados, olives, etc. to salads if I thought that it would round it out for my guests, and I have done that.

I know if I were a guest in your home I would have enjoyed everything you prepared, since I am accustomed to this diet. But you can't say that about everyone.

Potlucks seem like the best idea with mixed eating styles.


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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
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I honestly think I was perhaps just being too sensitive, b/c other than my stepmother, who seems to have a chip on her shoulder re: veganism (her son--my stepbrother--and his family have been vegan for decades, as have I, and she has never stopped making snide commentary about it), and my bread-and-cheese niece, the rest of the family eats very similarly to how I eat and I really do NOT think that having to put their own salt on made any kind of difference. When I think about it, they've never really gone out of their way to compliment anyone's cooking, LOL, so maybe it's just a rude lot and I was being extra sensitive b/c this is the first time I've done ALL the cooking for them since I've been McDougallized.

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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
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That was probably it. Around here I know if there is no compliment, and they are all quiet and not very talkative they aren't enjoying what I made.

It just made me think of some of the times I made a new recipe (like a soup or stew) for my family and put bread out with it, and they ate a ton of bread with added butter and hardly any of the recipe and I couldn't understand what was the matter with it - here I was having 2-3 serving of it, lol. :lol: I would get so annoyed with them all, cause usually they do enjoy the things I make ie beans, yams, salads etc. but it's a game of Russian Roulette with new recipes around here.

You are fortunate that you don't have a big family to cook for - we do a lot of separate meals here but dinner's usually on me.


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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
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soliver wrote:
That was probably it. Around here I know if there is no compliment, and they are all quiet and not very talkative they aren't enjoying what I made.

It just made me think of some of the times I made a new recipe (like a soup or stew) for my family and put bread out with it, and they ate a ton of bread with added butter and hardly any of the recipe and I couldn't understand what was the matter with it - here I was having 2-3 serving of it, lol. :lol: I would get so annoyed with them all, cause usually they do enjoy the things I make ie beans, yams, salads etc. but it's a game of Russian Roulette with new recipes around here.

You are fortunate that you don't have a big family to cook for - we do a lot of separate meals here but dinner's usually on me.



Around here, when I cook I announce it. I say, "I cooked!" and then I turn around and make them all pat me on the back. I really deserve a medal. 8)

My husband is always grateful when I cook and almost always compliments my cooking and eats a lot of it. (Sometimes he even likes the food more than I do.) My eldest daughter eats like a bird and is quiet by nature and won't say much even if she loves or hates the food. With my youngest, if she's not whining and complaining too loudly, then we're all doin' good. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Disappointing family meal and conclusions drawn
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You went to a lot of work to make tasty food. You deserved compliments. :-) I have experienced the exact same thing with friends and family. It is common courtesy to be kind and complimentary to your host, but it seems many people out there are not. I know some people who never say compliments!


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