I beg to differ with you, Norm. I eat very normally and very healthy. I eat normal meals and have normal bowel movements.
You quoted my entire post, but didn't address everything I said, so I have to ask, do you disagree with everything I said, or just the part about normal meals and normal bowel movements? If you truly do eat normal meals after gastric bypass, then you're the exception, not the rule, or you've redefined "normal" to suit your needs, but it's hardly reasonable to expect someone else going in for gastric bypass is going to be able to eat "normal" meals ever again, is it?
While I do wish I had know about this WOE before I had myt gastric bypass, it helped my regain my health.
On a psychological level we all tend to rationalize our past. I, for instance, could argue that ballooning up to 486 pounds saved my life!! How? It forced me to address the issues that caused my health to come to that point. I could further argue that had I peaked out at, say, 350, that my life would have still been manageable enough that I'd have never considered the drastic changes I needed to make, and that I'd have eventually died relatively young and in poor health, never making the needed changes. All of this assumes many things, and really would be designed to make me feel better about my past by painting it in the best possible light. No, I don't rationalize my past like that. I don't see the point. But I understand why people do it. And I understand why you'd paint your past gastric bypass in the best possible light too. It's human nature. I did not wish to make anyone feel bad about having gone down this road themselves.
I'm glad you wish you had known about this way of living before you'd had your bypass done. And you should wish that for the man who is considering going that route himself. My post wasn't about making you feel bad about your past choices, or about causing you any discomfort about your rationalization for your past choices. My post was about trying to help steer a man towards this way of eating BEFORE he mutilates his body with gastric bypass. Do you wish that for this man, like I do? If so, then accept my apology for anything I said that rubbed you the wrong way. I'm only trying to help. Yes, I said some blunt things. But there is little time to talk him out of it, and being blunt is the only tool in the bag that'd work for this. I'd never be so blunt with anyone who'd already gone down that road. It'd serve no purpose. I don't believe in being blunt for the sake of being blunt, or because "that's just how I am" (always followed by an attitude of "get used to it"). That's not who I am!! I'm typically Mr. Compassionate, so accept that I feel badly if I caused you any discomfort.
No Norm, I didn’t disagree with your entire post, I just neglected to only quote the part I was referring to, where you said
He'll never eat a normal meal again, after bypass. He'll never have a normal bowel movement again, for that matter
That is not a true statement. You just hit a nerve with me, I guess. I know many people that have had the surgery and did quite well with it. I also know of a small number of people that had complications. Just like any other surgery.
I’m not trying to rationalize my past. I was 42, I had a heart attack and I didn’t think I had another choice. I’ve been quite open about my surgery and have posted in the past how I was sorry that I didn’t come across the McDougall program prior to my surgery, but I can’t go back and change it.
I do hope this gentleman finds the right answer. I hope veganjen is able to help him make this decision.
I am happy for you that you are making such great improvements with this WOE. It is, in my opinion, the absolute best.