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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:54 am 
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I've never known anyone to force someone else to believe in something, unless somehow they were tortured and coerced by mind-control. Is that what happened to you?


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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:11 pm 
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Knut wrote:
Christians and Buddhists?

What do you get when you cross a Lutheran and a Buddhist?

Someone who sits up all night worrying about nothing....


What do you get when you cross a Jehova's Witness with a Unitarian?

Someone who knocks on your door but won't tell you why.
(PS: Unitarians are soooooo cool!)

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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:08 pm 
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I've never known anyone to force someone else to believe in something, unless somehow they were tortured and coerced by mind-control. Is that what happened to you?


I feel it's more useful to give support, and try to understand where this person is coming from, and try to help him, rather than posting smart remarks.

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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:12 am 
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As a Christian myself, I want to be careful how I answer you.
It sounds like your wife is fearful for you and for your health. I don't like to judge a pastor, but it sounds like he is feeding her fear.

God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of love and of power and a sound mind.

Her job is not to convert you, but to love you and show you the love of Christ through her life. The unbelieving spouse is sanctified by the believing spouse.

She needs to rest and trust in God for your salvation.

I believe it is good to take the children to church, but not so good to fight about it at home. Home is a place where peace should reign. Rather than have them focus on the old testament stories, all of you should look to Jesus.

God bless you both and your children.


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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:26 am 
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Jordan Rubin has written several books, including The Maker's Diet, about how he cured himself of Crohn's Disease. He does not follow Vegan guidelines on his diet, but stresses whole foods, range fed meat or game. I don't suppose you'd [u]have[u]to eat animal products on his diet. Anyway, you might want to check it out. You can get the books for as little as $.01 on Amazon.


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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:30 pm 
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No one can force their beliefs on anyone and shouldn't want to. That being said, I'd rather live my life believing in God and find out He doesn't exist than to live my life not believing and then finding out He does.

I can't do anything without God. Sickness and death are from the devil. Your free will of whether you believe in God or not aids in the belief God will heal you. God is love, He does not make anyone sick or keep them sick.

Whatever science has or will say cannot explain creation of man or any other living, breathing entity.

My beliefs.
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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:13 pm 
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DawnT wrote:
No one can force their beliefs on anyone and shouldn't want to. That being said, I'd rather live my life believing in God and find out He doesn't exist than to live my life not believing and then finding out He does.

I can't do anything without God. Sickness and death are from the devil. Your free will of whether you believe in God or not aids in the belief God will heal you. God is love, He does not make anyone sick or keep them sick.

Whatever science has or will say cannot explain creation of man or any other living, breathing entity.

My beliefs.
Dawn


I'm sorry ,that you might find this disrespectful, but that is a load of crap.

Awhile back I attended a church service and the lady in the front was praying over people and saying how the devil is giving kids asthma and making believers sick and what not. I was thinking to myself that this is so ignorant. God says in the bible His people perish because of ignorance. No, it is the dairy that is giving your children these problems and no its the food they are consuming that is giving people disease.

I think people, believers, give too much credit to the devil. If God is for you, who can be against you? People in church talk about standing up to the devil and "fighting the enemy" when really all they need to do is work on themselves. Fight the devil for what? The only devil are the sins inwhich you indulge. And Jesus says, when he heals someone, "Repent and sin no more."

From the greek repent actually means "to change one's mind." To change your mind, your blueprint, or to have a paradigm shift. Now that you know what is a main cause of disease you opened your awareness. You can "change your mind" and "sin no more." You can eat healthfuly and reap the rewards of abundant health. You dont go back to the unhealthy way of life because you have changed your thoughts. You know the truth.

Again, if God is for you, who can be against you?


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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:02 am 
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God says in the bible His people perish because of ignorance. No, it is the dairy that is giving your children these problems and no its the food they are consuming that is giving people disease.

I think people, believers, give too much credit to the devil. If God is for you, who can be against you? People in church talk about standing up to the devil and "fighting the enemy" when really all they need to do is work on themselves.


I am not sure I did that quote right...first time :). However, I agree with you. We will die because of our ignorance. Dairy will kill us and if it doesn't it will cause multiple other issues. Our diets are disgusting. We have to change what we are doing and that is why most of us are here. God did not intend us to be meat eaters yet the majority of the world does. At the time of Noah the animals were intended to feed the people because of the great flood that wiped out all the fruit, vegetables, nuts, grains, etc etc... Once the water receded and everything was lush, green and growing we were given the choice.

I do believe in the Bible and it says that the devil is responsible for sickness and death. Even if the final choice is ours, the devil promotes eating meat/dairy/seafood...etc. These are just my opinions of what I read in the Bible.

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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
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Dear friend, The church she is going to has some major problems because it doesn't fit with the gospel or your wife is not understanding the teachings of Jesus. What I would do if I was you is go to the source, the Bible and read especially the New Testament because the you can see what she is saying is true or not. Your marriage and the children need to understand what it says to make your own decision about it. That will show your interest to understand her without agruing about the merits of this new fatih of hers. Just like reading Dr M's books or any other book that is life changing. If you diagree after that then at least you can calmly state why in the language she speaking. Divorce is not the answer in Christain churches for this kind of disagreement if it not a cult. And if they saying things like that then that is not good place for your family.

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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
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I am not a religious person, but DH and I were having a discussion the other night about something Jesus did, so I picked up a Bible to look it up and came across this and thought of you. I am not a Bible scholar, so maybe I don't know the context and correct meaning of this verse, but you might want to show this to your wife and her pastor:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=ESV


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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:49 am 
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I have been a Crohn's patient for almost fifty years. NO ONE knows the cause of Crohn's disease. However, no one who is knowledgeable believes that it is a spiritual disease.

Diet certainly affects the course of Crohn's. Eliminating dairy, going easy on fats and oils, being careful not to eat TOO much roughage...these most experts would agree benefit Crohn's. Dr. McDougall's diet is as good as any, and better than most, at keeping Crohn's at bay.

My personal experience is that dairy, fats/oils, sugars, and wheat products cause excessive diarrhea. I am very lucky in that I have had very few flares, and I can't address what exacerbates them.

I have had two bowel resections, and most of my problems of chronic diarrhea can be traced to those surgeries.

As to the religious difference between you and your wife, I would be most concerned about the effect on your children. I will state categorically that it is unhealthy if your wife is the sole determining force in your children's religious training. They are equally your children, and you should have equal voice in their upbringing.

I am a member of a Christian church, but I recognize that Buddhism is an excellent religious choice. Each person is a child of God...meaning that we all have the capacity for goodness within us...and this includes Buddhists and atheists as well as the strictest Bible-believing fundamentalists.

Hold your ground, and rid yourself of the notion that your illness is caused by sin or the devil. I wish you the best.

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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
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Just say AMEN once in a while you will be fine..

Oh yes honey....Amen

You look great dear...Amen

Amen this and Amen that...

I have to deal with a Buddhist wife..but that is easy..:))


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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:59 pm 
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Knut wrote:
Christians and Buddhists?

What do you get when you cross a Lutheran and a Buddhist?

Someone who sits up all night worrying about nothing....

LOVE IT! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:01 pm 
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Gweithgar wrote:
Knut wrote:
Christians and Buddhists?

What do you get when you cross a Lutheran and a Buddhist?

Someone who sits up all night worrying about nothing....


What do you get when you cross a Jehova's Witness with a Unitarian?

Someone who knocks on your door but won't tell you why.
(PS: Unitarians are soooooo cool!)

Must vist the religious forum more often. It's a lot more entertaining than I thought. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: My wife is FORCING me to believe in Christ.
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WOW!!! Her partor is hardly a Christian!! :-(


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