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 Post subject: Doing what works
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:31 am 
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Hello all, I'm new and thinking the best place to start out would be a journal.

A little bit of history...

I was always a little chubby as a child. My parents never restricted or guided me - so I grew up eating the same frozen dinner (tortellini) each day, every day for years. Had gallstones at age 16.

In my late teens I got into veganism and soon found Dr McDougall, finding the food plentiful and satisfying and I felt great. I lost weight, worked out a lot, and over time I found myself controlling more and more... over two years, I came to a point where I was eating about 600 calories a day while exercising a minimum of 2 hours (high-intensity aerobics and spinning) every day!

The inevitable came at my 22nd birthday, while I was still at college in Durham. Friends took me out for a celebratory dinner, and I figured I’d just eat whatever I wanted there and get back to my regular diet afterwards. I never did. The floodgates had opened – I went on to gain over 50 lbs. in under 6 months.

A relentless cycle of bingeing and dieting had begun. I remember binges in college – after that fateful birthday - when I went to the store, buying everything I wanted because it would of course be the last binge, the mother of all binges, the one that was finally so bad that it would make me stop. Never happened.

For years I was totally powerless when the urge to eat hit. At some point I had turned to low-carb dieting, but could never keep the diet up for more than 2 weeks. When a binge was coming, I would delay the inevitable but that’s what it was in the end – inevitable. A thought would enter my mind, a certain food, maybe because I saw an advert or for no reason at all. It would consume my mind, my thoughts would circle around it for hours and days, drowning out everything else and making concentration impossible. Eventually I would break down and buy that food, along with many others, because this would now be the very last binge. It wasn't.

After years of this I finally came to understand that I was a slave to food. I had tried every diet out there, from McDougall (which I had restricted to an unhealthy level that I was, unsurprisingly, unable to get back to) to fat-fasting on Atkins and Zero-Carb dieting (which went against every ethical grain in my being, and was gross, but I was desperate enough to try it). It was not sane, and I knew it – all hope was finally gone. I acknowledged I needed help.

I found a branch of Overeaters Anonymous in 2004 and got on their plan, and was on it for about five or six years, getting down to a healthy weight and staying there while on the program. But in the final 18 months of that time, I found myself steadily gaining weight even though I hadn't changed my diet. My response to that was, again, to restrict – to limit my choices from the program (by eliminating high-carb choices). Again I restricted more and more, eventually getting to a point where only a fraction of the foods on the program were “OK” for me to eat… and I held on… but over time, I became more and more resentful at how limited my diet was (and I didn’t enjoy it) and how it failed to yield results. I decided to try and find my own way.

At first things went mad again. Instead of the sanity I'd had on OA (a limited sanity, to be fair, towards the end because I was dieting severely and unsuccessfully) I walked straight back into madness. If I was restricted before, now things got even worse as I would fast completely twice a week, eat only meat for weeks (zero carb), I even did a liquid diet with doctor’s supervision, and bought a full-on low-carb diet system with food delivery to the tune of £1,000.

There was nothing I could stick to. But I was no longer wiling to live as restricted a life as OA demanded, with three phone calls a day, daily check-in with a sponsor, phoning a qualified sponsor if a food change was necessary, weighing and measuring my food... I was no longer willing to work this hard to live a normal life. I just wanted the normal life.

With hindsight, I see the one mistake I made throughout my dieting life, after initially getting it right with McDougall (although restriction proved my undoing then, and I won't make that mistake again): seeing carbohydrates as the enemy. I wasn't until I started getting into low-carb that my bingeing really started; and my response to weight gain was always to restrict carbohydrates. Ironically, eating animal pieces and secretions goes against all my ethical convictions, and it goes to show how desperate I was that I was willing to consume them. I only ever felt satisfied with my food, and was thin, with McDougall and later with OA (which stipulates large amounts of vegetables each day, both raw and cooked).

I've learned my lesson now. Just because something seems to make scientific sense - and low-carb does - and other people have success with it - and low-carbers do - that doesn't mean it's for me. I've had to find my own way, and go against prevailing advice in magazines and the media.

Today, I eat in a way that works for me. I no longer allow my choices to be based on dieting factors; I'm a vegan because I don't want to harm animals. Dr McDougall's plan has always made sense, and his are the guidelines I choose to follow.

I'm done with dieting, thanks very much. I'm after true sanity with food now.

Susanne

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:07 pm 
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I am a slave to food and I eat 99% of the right foods with a slip occasionally when I'm weak and unprepared. I love food and glad I have plenty of the best food around me.

I notice when I've taken good care of my dietary needs then being around others who are eating without thinking doesn't bother me. I still have my moments when I can't protect myself and eat what I shouldn't.

I will give William James ideas deeper consideration... "NO EXCEPTIONS" to the foods that will harm my health and I should be free and clear. I have to remember to always keep a hand bag of SOMETHING acceptable with me or get to it as soon as possible.

I hope that soon enough you're slave to the foods that bring you health and harm you none.

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:42 am 
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Thanks, Debbie and StarchBeet - I appreciate being made to feel welcome. Look forward to getting to know you a bit!

I had a good day yesterday, food-wise. Given that I have to eat up quite a lot of fruit I have in my house, I may be eating a bit more fruit this week than is technically allowed on MWL but when it's gone, it's gone.

So yesterday was:
  • Breakfast: honeydew melon with 1 tbs. flax seed
  • Snacks: 1 apple, some celery stalks
  • Lunch: Thai soup (from a can; fat free) with added 1/2 can of butter beans, leafy salad with salsa for dressing
  • Dinner: Steamed sweet peas in the pod, big salad of broccoli with a blended dressing made from 3 tomatoes, 1/2 cucumber and 1/2 onion.

Monday weigh-in: 164.4

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
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Welcome to the group!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:08 am 
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Thanks, Rosey! Good to be here :)

Yesterday wasn't a good day, food-wise, because I ate at a place that didn't serve anything fat-free so I ended up eating a fat-loaded lunch. I miss America, where you can be as fussy as you like with waiters and they'll do everything they can to accommodate you. Doesn't work like that in the UK.

On the plus side, I have been cooking! Made cauliflower soup yesterday and a zucchini/onion soup the day before, both of which in fairly large quantity so now I'll eat those for a while. I also bought quinoa.

I haven't eaten McDougall's in so long that I actually have to re-learn to cook. I've made rice the other day, that's easy because it was boil-in-the-bag; quinoa is a little scary; and I have yet to make potatoes. It's been a good 10 years since I've last made a potato, and I'm not sure how to do it. I'd prefer to microwave it, not start up the oven if that can be avoided.

Then, there are what looks like five hundred different variety of potato and sweet potato at the supermarket and I haven't the foggiest idea what to pick....

Any tips would be welcome...

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
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If you get a microwave steamer they taste pretty good in microwave I think. Every time I've tried without a steamer the skin was to hard.

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:16 am 
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The simplest way to prepare potatoes is to boil them, whole, unpeeled. (If there are any rotten or other "bad" spots, cut them out -- but try to avoid this at the time of purchase.)

You will need to experiment four or five times to learn about degree of boiling (I use a low level) and timing (30 to 50 minutes typically, with the lid on or slightly ajar). Bigger potatoes require more time. I put the biggest ones on the bottom of the pot, where the heat is direct.

Test with a sharp-pointed knife. If it slides in and out of the center easily, the potato is cooked. Also, generally, the potatoes are cooked if the skins start to split. That usually means the core is cooked and the potato has expanded.

I boil mine in a four-quart pot. They range from small (golf-ball size) to medium (orange size).

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:34 pm 
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Hey Susanne,

Welcome! Your story sounds a lot like mine. At least the part about obsessing over food and once the thought pops into your head it's just a matter of time before you give in. Could be 5 minutes. Could be 2 days but it will happen and since you're eating something bad why not eat everything else you may ever miss again in this lifetime since this is the last opportunity you'll ever have to eat it! So me. Anyhoo, I'm using a MWL/OA approach to food. I'm a member of another 12-step program so I recognize my issues with food are 2-fold. The first, is the desire to grab something to escape an uncomfortable emotion. No amount of food preparation can fix that. I need to focus on facing fears, anxiety, spirituality, communication blah blah to ease the obsession from that end. The second part is my physical response to certain foods. There are some foods (usually processed, sweet, salty, or fatty or some combination thereof) that once I have had a small amount I cannot stop. And, once it's in my system I continue to crave more over time (not just for that bender). For this issue I find the McDougall program ideal. I am also an ethical vegan but have no trouble finding "trigger" foods that are vegan (ie., Oreos). There are also things allowed on the McDougall plan that I am powerless over (ie., pasta, bread, cashews). So, my diet (as of 2-3 months ago) is the Maximum Weightloss Program (MWL). I plan to stay with this way of eating even when I reach an ideal weight because the items on the regular McDougall program that are not allowed on MWL are my trigger foods. I believe they always will be.

I see my journal and the other journals and threads here as my support group. People understand why I need to be more strict than others because I have food issues others don't have. There are plenty of other people just like me here who also have to stay with MWL even though they have reached their weight goals. Some of us are powerless over some food items (or additives) and we need to eliminate them from our diet even if they are technically "allowed" on McDougall. It's an individual thing that each person figures out through trial and error.

You have all the support here you care to ask for! Welcome and glad you're here!!

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
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Welcome to the McDougall WOE I love it here, and hope to stay on it for life.
It is good to recognize your triggers and your pitfalls. they are out there, for sure!
good luck and keep journaling!

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:57 am 
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Thank you everyone for the lovely welcomes - and the tips on potato cooking, which I've tried: I simply boiled some, and they were lovely.

Today's food:
- Breakfast: 1/2 honeydew melon, 1/2 cup oatmeal
- Lunch: green beans, onions, chickpeas; 1 whole celery stalk; 1 apple
- Dinner: green beans, onions, chickpeas again; salad of baby spinach, tomatoes, salsa as dressing

Going pretty well really! The hardest thing is not to keep eating after dinner, because I want something sweet and I really need to break that habit!

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
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I think I'm in love with potatoes!

Today I made my first ever microwaved baked potato. I just put a whole potato in the microwave for 10 minutes... and I ate it with nothing but a few drops of soy sauce added... it was divine!!

Right now there's also a number of sweet potatoes in my slow cooker, which I'm getting ready to have at breakfast with apple & banana, see how that tastes.

Today's food:
- Breakfast: 1/2 cantaloupe, 1/2 cup (dry) oatmeal
- Lunch: cauliflower soup with lentils, salad with tomato passata as dressing
- Dinner: microwaved baked potato, collard greens salad with salsa as dressing

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:42 am 
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Still loving potatoes. But not sweet potatoes.

Sweet potatoes are not a food I grew up with - in continental Europe I think they are pretty much unknown. Certainly they were to me! So I tried them, since I needed something for breakfast, and... nah, sorry, no way.

So, my modified Mary's Mini involves having potato for each meal except breakfast, which is rice based.

And even though I've eaten like a pig and often felt way too full this week, I'm down 3.2 lbs - woo hoo!

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Rice, glorious rice!!

I have finally used up the sweet potatoes (I had made portions for 4 breakfasts, and I don't throw food away unless I absolutely have to) and had my first rice breakfast today. It's wonderful!!!

What I make:
- 1 bag boil-in-the-bag brown rice (125g dry)
- 1 mashed banana
Mix the banana and rice
- 2 peaches, cut up
- soya milk
Mix in, enjoy.

Best breakfast ever!

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:37 am 
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Been a while since my last check-in. Things have gone quite well - but my weight hasn't dropped! I think it's happening now, though. I've been exercising at least 3x/week in the last month. Have a gym membership where there's an exercise class every weekday morning, and I'm building up to going to one every day.

Food - pretty good as well, got into a routine. My usual day:
- Breakfast - 1 cup oatmeal, 1-2 bananas
- Lunch - 1-2 microwave baked potatoes (depends on size), big salad
- Dinner - 2 corn cobs if I can get them (otherwise taters), big salad.
- Snacks: apples

I'm not great on cooking vegetables, I did make soup (of carrots, onions, butternut, kale) the other day and have been eating that in addition to the above, and liked it.

Weight as of last Monday - 162.8, no change in many weeks.

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 Post subject: Re: Doing what works
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After a long time without posting, I have a new weight to post - 161.2 at this week's weigh in. If this is the pace at which I'm going, I'll be 50 by the time I'm at a good weight! :mad:

Food is going fine, and I've joined a gym where I actually go because they have classes each morning. So I can go before work and keep my evenings free. That said, I haven't gone since Monday (today is Thursday) - mustn't let that slip!! I shall be back at it tomorrow morning.

Tonight is Thanksgiving. I could ignore it completely - after all, here in the UK it's not being celebrated - but I've been doing the whole traditional spread with friends every year since moving to the UK. This year I was going to, even including the turkey, but turns out that the good, organic/happy turkeys are only becoming available at Christmas... in this country, turkey is Christmas food and they are being reared to be "ready" then, not earlier. Of course I could get a frozen one from the supermarket, but I'm not prepared to do that - poor, miserable creature! So I will present my friends with a nut roast tonight, and am very curious what kind of reception that will get.

Wish me luck... and a thick skin... ;-)

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