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 Post subject: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:17 am 
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Has anyone heard or seen this film? It's going to be shown locally presented by Whole Foods so I've called for tickets.

It features Dr. Fuhrman in the film overseeing his medical condition and treatment - Dr. Fuhrman has a blip about it on his website: http://drfuhrman.com/company/fat_sick_nearly_dead.aspx

There is a write up in the Huffington post - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-cross/fat-sick-and-nearly-dead-_b_789298.html

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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:29 am 
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I'm reading that for the first two months he only juiced under Dr. Furhman's care - something that I would never do LOL - I prefer not to drink my calories.

Apparently whole foods is showing it around the country to remind people to consume more fruits and veggies.

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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:08 pm 
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I just watched this movie on Netflix. I really liked it. I don't juice for myself but my kids get "juiced" when they get sick or I have lots of ripe fruit :D

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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:26 pm 
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I saw it a month or two ago on my cable pay-per-view. Yes, he was juice-only to lose the weight; not my thing. But I enjoyed the movie. The message that our health is in our hands is always a welcome one.


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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:04 pm 
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I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. I'm not into juicing either, but it inspired me to try to eat more vegetables. I'd be doing better, but the kale has been bitter and Costco doesn't have brussel sprouts. :p


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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:23 pm 
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its on netflix, boring and all about micro nutrients as if more nutrients makes you loose weight... not the lack of calories or fat they drastically switch from... i'd barf if i had to drink a juice thats just cruel!

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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:51 pm 
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Sounds interesting. Unfortunately, I'm abroad right now so trying to catch a showing at my local Whole Foods or watching it on Netflix (the site won't let me see films from my overseas internet connection :-( ) is out.

I used to be pretty big on the raw food diet, so it doesn't surprise me that 60 days of juicing changed his health. I've read quite a few stories from raw fooders about how juicing for a long period of time helped them. I see it as drastic measures, but it sounds like his health required it. I also wouldn't be able to do it. I never liked juice - even just as a beverage. I prefer water :-).

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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:55 am 
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Thanks for the tip about netflix :)! I had heard an interview with Joe Cross on the All About Food podcast and I thought I would have to wait a while to see the movie so I was excited to see it available so soon. Loved it! I was really touched by how many people he was able to inspire to take control of their health. I felt that the main message in this movie wasn't that juicing is a good diet to lose weight on but rather that even people suffering with severe autoimmune and other chronic diseases can turn their health around.

Fasting is one of those topics that has to be put into context to properly discuss the benefits. For some very ill people it can and does save their lives. The TrueNorth Health Center is a fasting clinic that offers medically supervised fasts. One of the administrators is Doug Lisle who wrote The Pleasure Trap. For people in general good health and who aren't morbidly obese then less extreme measures such as the Mcdougall diet are just as effective and offer permanency that fasting doesn't.

In my opinion juice fasting with green juice is a healthy alternative to water only fasts for very ill people and perhaps even less problematic because the risks associated with total starvation are not a factor.

The key is to do it right and follow it up with a lifetime of McDougalling :).

P.S. Micronutrients are vitamins and minerals. For people who have been consuming lots of energy dense, nutrient poor foods for virtually decades the logical reversal diet would be comprised of nutrient rich, energy poor foods and green juices such as those used in the movie are one example. Not the only solution, of course, but it does work for some people.

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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
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I just watched this last night and was going to put a post up about the film. I liked it, is great to see how peoples' lives can be turned around if they'd just try. I want to do a juice fast, see if my face clears up more and if I regain energy.

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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
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I also really liked the film and, since our family enjoys fresh vegetable juices, my husband and I decided to buy a good qualilty juicer to make our own fresh vegie juices. I'm interested in having a big juice for one meal each day and see how that works for me. I think fasting is beneficial for people who have a huge amount of weight to lose, rather than for people like me who need to lose a relatively small amount of weight. Also, there's a testimonial on the T. Colin Campbell website from a man who cured himself of prostate cancer by doing mostly juice fasts for a number of weeks, then transitioning to a plant based diet.

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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
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My wife and I liked this thought-provoking and inspiring documentary. We wondered just how effective it would be, whether we would like the juices, how hard it would be to follow, how much and how rapidly we would lose weight and any other changes in our health we would experience (good or bad). I've been trying to increase the quantities of raw veggies in my diet so this did not strike me as so far out as it would for someone coming from the typical western diet.

We both have some stubborn pounds to lose so we are kick-starting our weight loss by juicing for breakfast and lunch and having squash soup for dinner, made in part with some of the pulp from lunch. We're somewhere between a juice fast and MWL (squash soup) and finding this has been fairly easy and fun to do - so far. We bought a juicer and a boatload of fresh fruits and vegetables. So many that we could not get them all in our refrigerator. :-o We're learning alot about making delicious fruit and vegetable juices that we will no doubt continue to make when we return to MWL and then McDougall Plan for continued weight loss and long term weight maintenance.


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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:10 pm 
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When you juice do you throw away the pulp? Can anyone explain how juicing is different than grinding the vegetables/fruits up in a blender? If the pulp is tossed, why is that?


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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
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stirFry wrote:
When you juice do you throw away the pulp? Can anyone explain how juicing is different than grinding the vegetables/fruits up in a blender? If the pulp is tossed, why is that?

A juicer literally separates the pulp from the juice. With our unit, one side of the juicer empties into a juice pitcher and the other side empties into a bin for the pulp. The pulp can be discarded, used for compost or used as a thickener for soups and other dishes. When juicing you get about 95% of the nutrients without all of the bulk.


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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
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I loved this movie. Really inspiring. I am thinking of doing smoothies to see if my skin clears up and my energy comes back. I have about 50 lbs to lose and would love a little jumpstart!


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 Post subject: Re: Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead: A Film by Joe Cross
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I watched and liked the movie, went to the website, and read about differences in juicing and blending with a vitamix. I don't really see the benefit of leaving out the fiber and bulk. Wouldn't that make one hungry? I make a smoothie in my vitamix that is about the same recipe as he does with the juicing. I get it that he's getting megadoses of the nutrients, but can't that be more than is needed of a good thing? It seems to me that if one followed that type liquid program for a few days with smoothies rather than juice, they would feel full and satisfied. Let me know what you think. I might do it for a day or so sometime, but I don't have a juicer, just a vitamix. Take care, LauraA

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