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 Post subject: Re: Stubborn weight
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:32 am 
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That is enlightening..... Thanks for sharing it.

Why did you eliminate the 100 % fat-free salad dressing ?

Do you have raw salad ? Why not ?

What do you use to season your potatoes ? ( at the moment, I pour the salad dressing on my grilled potatoes, do I need to stop ?)

What is the elimination diet ?

How much did you lose over what period of time with this eating plan ?

Thank you in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Stubborn weight
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:40 am 
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Jesse Rowe wrote:
Potatoes Potatoes Potatoes.

It's that simple. Don't limit your potato intake. They are key to satiation, weight loss, energy and fitness.

I eat up to 20 per day and I run 50 miles a week. I've lost 75lbs and no one can stop me.

I tried a diet high in green vegetables and I felt hungry and angry all day due to lack of sufficient calories. Don't starve yourself. Don't restrict your starch intake. Ever.



Would you be willing to tell us what kind(s) of potatoes you eat and your favorite ways to eat them? Tell us what your day of eating looks like... if you don't mind!

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 Post subject: Re: Stubborn weight
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:36 am 
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teelee317 wrote:
Oh wow............I went vegan on August 24th of 2011 and have effortlessly lost 35 pounds since then. But I still have the "diabetic spare tire" and feel my weight loss should have been double that. So, I read the starch solution. I've eliminated bread. I've switched to all-corn pasta. I was not aware of the high calories in the nutritional yeast. I eat it on EVERYthing! Guess I need to cut down. It seems like whatever I do I find out some error. But my blood sugars are controlled, and my infectious processes, Bartholin's cyst, boils, and chronic and severe sinus infections, have disappeared. I wouldn't go back to being a carnivore even if I had to go back to the insulin needle. I was taking upwards of 100 units a day. Now I'm down to zero. Maybe I'm just going to be a fat vegan?


Hi Teelee,

I haven't lost the spare tyre yet either in fact I think it stands our more now because my hips have gone down !!! :-)

Never mind - if we feel better that's what really matters isn't it?

Good luck

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 Post subject: Re: Stubborn weight
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:47 am 
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pinkrose wrote:
Nina, this has worked well for me and I think it will work for you, especially until you reach your goal:

Eat only veggies and starches. :!: You may want to start with a ratio of 1:1. Eat plenty of green veggies. I suppose you know that all of these should be unrefined for the best results. If you are not happy with the speed of weight loss, increase the ratio of veggies: starches. You will probably find that a ratio of 2:1 will be very effective in regard to fat loss.

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Hi Pinkrose, thanks for this advice. It makes sense to me. I'm very new to the idea of starchbased eating. I only have about 5 pounds to lose, but they can be very stubborn and slow to come off. I'm really curious to see what following this type of approach will do.

GG


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 Post subject: Re: Stubborn weight
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:07 pm 
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Hi, I just had to answer before I go back and read all your replies.

Listen, losing 12 lbs. in 3 months is damn good! I've read that healthy weight loss can be from 1/2 to 2 lbs. a week, so you are doing great!

If I could lose 12 lbs. in 3 months I'd be doing the happy dance 24 hours a day! Congratulations!...now back to reading your replies...


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 Post subject: Re: Stubborn weight
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:15 am 
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gnadec wrote:
Jesse Rowe wrote:
Potatoes Potatoes Potatoes.

It's that simple. Don't limit your potato intake. They are key to satiation, weight loss, energy and fitness.

I eat up to 20 per day and I run 50 miles a week. I've lost 75lbs and no one can stop me.

I tried a diet high in green vegetables and I felt hungry and angry all day due to lack of sufficient calories. Don't starve yourself. Don't restrict your starch intake. Ever.



Would you be willing to tell us what kind(s) of potatoes you eat and your favorite ways to eat them? Tell us what your day of eating looks like... if you don't mind!


I prefer to boil the potatoes I eat, although occasionally I will bake them in the oven. When I boil, I remove skins, when baking I leave skins on.

I prefer yellow fleshed potatoes but I eat and enjoy all varieties of tubers. I rarely eat sweet potato

Yellow fleshed potatoes handle the boil much better than white flesh which are much starchier. Never fry your potato in oil, ever. This is like driving a Porsche through a mud bog.

I use a wide variety of seasons for the bring out the true enjoyment of potato. Salt, chili pepper, garlic, indian spices such as chat masala. An enjoyable accompanyment is steamed green vegetable such as kale or chinese vegetable(choy sum, bok choy) or english spinach.

As Dr McDougall has stated ad nauseum for good reason, Peruvian people base their entire cuisine on potatoes, from their Andean pre Columbian ancestors, who have been known to cultivate and eat potatoes since the 12th century BC. Indigenous peoples in Peru today eat potatoes at every meal(Quechua, Aymara, Mapuche). It is only the rich and affluent part of Andean society today(the kings and queens) who eat the animal based diet. Traditional South American cuisine is a maize and potato way of eating(ask Dr. Mills if he has been to Peru)

One only need to boil 6-8 large potatoes for a meal at night with some steamed green vegetable to truly know what it means to be satisfied of a meal. And you are not only eating compassionately but you are fueling yourself for the day tomorrow. Potatoes are high calorie power food which has fuelled people and civilisations since the beginning, and there is a reason for this. And as Dr. McDougall has also said, you need to be quick because it is disappearing.

One should make potatoes their dietary staple above all other starches and enjoy with peripheral vegetables and moderate amounts of plant fats with spices and seasoning.

If you make your calorie base on non starches(raw vegetable and fruit fad diets) you will suffer.

Take it from the Peruanos, Ecuadorians, Bolivians, Chileans and Brazilians, Potatoes(Papas....=Father in Spanish) are Life Food.

Leave out the refined oils and animal fats.


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 Post subject: Re: Stubborn weight
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:55 pm 
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I remember well a conversation I had at our local gym some years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Stubborn weight
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:58 am 
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SweetPea wrote:
I recently went on Dr. McDougall's Elimination Diet to help treat my newly diagnosed autoimmune disease - eosinophilic esophagitis. Previously, I had been struggling to get my weight down to around 132 pounds for fitness reasons (running). Based on the advice of Dr. M and my gastrointerologist the elimination diet ended up being:

Sweet potatoes, hard winter squashes, brown rice, cooked (but not raw) green and yellow vegetables, cooked fruit. No beans, legumes, nightshades (white potato, eggplant, tomato, peppers), citrus fruits, kiwi, spices or condiments of any kind except salt (allowed because its a mineral).


Apparently, I need to do something different here. I am not losing weight at all, this time around and I don't understand why. My first go round with this diet, 3 years ago, I lost weight like crazy, like 15 pounds in 2 weeks. This time I have been on it and faithful for 2 weeks and have not lost 1 once. Very discouraging.

Katie, can you please tell me why no beans, no legumes and no nightshades? Or if anyone can answer that for me, it would be appreciated.

I do have insulin resistance and a thyroid condition, and believe that nightshades aren't good for me. But I love beans! :crybaby: Must I give them up, because I will to lose weight! But just need to know why first.

Thanks everyone!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Stubborn weight
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:39 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Stubborn weight
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:43 pm 
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kimber1128 wrote:
SweetPea wrote:
I recently went on Dr. McDougall's Elimination Diet to help treat my newly diagnosed autoimmune disease - eosinophilic esophagitis. Previously, I had been struggling to get my weight down to around 132 pounds for fitness reasons (running). Based on the advice of Dr. M and my gastrointerologist the elimination diet ended up being:

Sweet potatoes, hard winter squashes, brown rice, cooked (but not raw) green and yellow vegetables, cooked fruit. No beans, legumes, nightshades (white potato, eggplant, tomato, peppers), citrus fruits, kiwi, spices or condiments of any kind except salt (allowed because its a mineral).


Apparently, I need to do something different here. I am not losing weight at all, this time around and I don't understand why. My first go round with this diet, 3 years ago, I lost weight like crazy, like 15 pounds in 2 weeks. This time I have been on it and faithful for 2 weeks and have not lost 1 once. Very discouraging.

Katie, can you please tell me why no beans, no legumes and no nightshades? Or if anyone can answer that for me, it would be appreciated.

I do have insulin resistance and a thyroid condition, and believe that nightshades aren't good for me. But I love beans! :crybaby: Must I give them up, because I will to lose weight! But just need to know why first.

Thanks everyone!!!


Eosinophilic esophagitis is an autoimmune disease where your food attacks your esophagus causing scar tissue and narrowing. You control it through an elimination diet. I can't eat beans, legumes or nightshades because they make my throat swell up to the point I can't swallow. It's not about weight-loss, it's about being able to eat - period. I lost a shocking amount of weight when I first went on the eliminatin diet, but I don't recommend it as a weight-loss tool. Dr. McDougall calls it the Diet for the Desperate for a reason.

If you enjoy beans and potatoes, eat-up. They are some of the healthiest foods on the planet. :D Beans are particularly good for weight-loss, as they contain a resistant form of starch that isn't completely digested. It's like getting a free pass on some of the calories. I MISS beans. I MISS potatoes and tomatoes. :crybaby: But you play the hand your dealt in this life. I'm just glad the doctors found out what was wrong with me before I ended up with a port in my stomach :eek:

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