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You aren't. You are just asking. However, I don't want to engage a direction of thinking that I think is unproductive.



Thanks. I do appreciate the comments and understand why you asked.

From my perspective...

There is no simple answer such as that and IMH(P&P)O, that is more important to understanding all of this, which is something I have tried to explain here.

There is no such thing as the "one" study (or two or three) that prove anything. That is not the purpose of studies. Studies only show statistical relationships based on the criteria used in the design of the study. And different studies use different criteria, so just because it is statistically significant in one (or two) does not always mean anything either. I have shown some examples of this here before with how the Lyon Heart Trial has been totally misrepresented. And how some studies on nuts have statistical significance but no clinical relevance at all.

Cancer is a multifaceted disease process and is not as simple as one single item.

Now, there have been recent discussions on alcohol and cancer and the point I made is the overwhelming body of evidence from all the different types of studies on all the different types of subjects shows a pretty strong relationship between alcohol and certain cancers. You can see that in the chart from the report too.

If you have the full AICR report, there are specific sections on cancer and milk so you may want to look there also. But, as I posted above, there are studies that show the exact opposite.

Now what?

If you really want to understand something, you really have to also read the other side and understand the other side too. Sadly, too much of debate today is completely divisive with no dialogue, understanding or civil discourse and many who are engaging in the debate shouldn't be, which BTW, is also my recommendation and that is, not to engage in these debates.

In Health
Jeff

Jeff,

Max's questions just made me think of another, related, question.

During your decades long review of all of the scientific evidence related to the connection between diet and health, was there ever a "a-ha" moment in which the light went on in your head and you concluded, "I think a low-fat, whole foods, plant based diet is the healthiest diet there is?"

If so, what caused this "a-ha" moment for you?

The reason why I ask is because for me, it was when I read Dr. Dean Ornish's book, "Program for Reversing Heart Disease." And also when I read "The China Study" by Dr. Campbell.

But I know that "diet books" aren't really as credible as peer reviewed scientific studies published in mainstream scientific journals. However, when I read those studies, I get little out of them. It's hard for me to sort out all of it.

I am guessing that for you, it wasn't a "diet book" that convinced you that the low-fat, whole foods, plant based diet was best. Right? Was it a series of studies? Was it observing a population? Was it working with a very talented health care provider or scientist?

Perhaps for you there was no single "a-ha" moment, but a series of moments and you eventually "connected the dots?"

Just wondering.

Interesting question and I would have to think about it.

For me, it's been a long road with many moments and inspirations and insights along the way. I don't think I can come up with any one (or two) truly "AHA" moments but instead an ongoing expanding awareness with many some mini moments along the way, some being philosophical, some being health related, some being more medical/scientific and some being personal experience.

Let me think more about it.

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Jeff

Hi Jeff,
Just read this post and I'm wondering if you have an answer yet to the query above?

Is there any scientific evidence for a low fat, plant based diet that you have come across?

This forum, and this website is a filled with the evidence for a low fat plant based diet.

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Jeff

Yes, lots of evidence and experience.

But on a more personal note: have you revisited the original question about your A-HA! moment or moments? I would like to hear about it, but I understand this might be better suited to a longer format. I am sure that we all would agree that it would be an interesting and relevant story.