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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:03 am 
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Julia you are getting great support and encouragement here! Looking forward to following your journey! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:59 pm 
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This is your first day. Amazing progress. It's a progression and a journey. There is no perfection--only what you make of it. The only thing that I wish to teach you is what Dr. Lisle says about not calling food "good" or "bad" but giving it a score from A plus to D-. Keep on keepin on :nod:


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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
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you've gotten a lot of great advice from everyone. I'd also suggest reading other peoples journals and you won't be embarrassed anymore. We all have our ups and downs in this process. Welcome aboard. HUGS!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:26 pm 
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Welcome JuliaG,

I used to love snacking on chips and nuts. My secret now is to stuff my gullet with brown rice and potatoes, so that I'm not hungry for the bad stuff! :D


Thank you, danmc! The universe knows I love me some brown rice and potatoes--separately or together--so that's great advice. I appreciate it.

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Welcome! It is great to see you here, and I'm glad that you're getting so much support. I started 2012 with about 40 pound to lose, out of a total of 70+ to lose last year, year before. I probably was underestimating how much I should lose, so I now probably still have 30 or 35 to go. I think that you'll find this program easy and filling once you really get going. Good luck to you, and welcome!! Take care LauraA

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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:59 pm 
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I'm pretty floored by all the great support and advice I've gotten in my whopping two days of doing this. You all rock, and I'll be responding to you very soon, but first I want to log my food before I forget. And by "forget" I mean "don't do it because I'm embarrassed by my choices."

GRADE A:
Brown rice and fresh broccoli
Pasta salad with fresh veggies and fat-free/oil-free balsamic

GRADE B:
TJ's corn flakes
Soy milk
Fat-free, low-salt pretzels

GRADE D-:
2 Reece's cups
Vending machine Cheetos
Restaurant pizza

A big Thank You! to sksamboots for telling me about the grading system for food choices. I, too, didn't like calling them "good" and "bad" because, when you grow up dirt poor, the only bad food is no food.

I noticed something about my choices yesterday. When I ate my ton of corn flakes, I felt full and fine. However, when I ate my pasta salad--at least 1.5 cups worth--I felt hungry and almost sugar-crashing shaky about an hour later. This could be because the pasta I used was tri-colored (read: white flour). But I found it odd that pasta, of all things, would leave me shaky in an hour. Usually, some spaghetti and sauce will fill me right up and keep me going for 4 hours, at least. So, I didn't pack it today.

The other thing I noticed was that I'm fighting my brain far more than my body. I mean, I knew this...but I didn't know this. Whenever I ate something in the Grade A or B category yesterday, I would feel full and fine for a while, and then I'd get this insane craving for Grade F food. Snacks, sweets, pizza (hence my dinner choice). Was I hungry? Nope. But my anxiety was high as hell for some reason. Norm, I think this is what you meant by part of the process involving saying goodbye to old friends. I can't lie: I'm not looking forward to that part. It felt like riding a mad bronco--and I lost.

I'll probably lose again today, and I'm remarkably okay with that. This is too big, too much, to do all at once and I've failed in goals before by making ridiculous ones that no sane person should take on. Lose a pound a day! Exercise two hours every morning before work! Write a chapter a day! Don't take any sick days for a year!

Why do I do that to myself? Why isn't a pound a week just as good. Hell, I'd have lost all my excess weight long ago if that had been good enough for me. Half a pound a week should have been good enough.

So, I'm battling my inner demon brat who wants what she wants, and what she wants is mac and cheese and pizza. Not sure how I'm going to handle that. Maybe I'll focus on stuffing my face with so much A+ stuff that I don't have room for the other. It's a thought.


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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:05 pm 
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Hi Julia :D ,

It's so great to hear from you today--I've been waiting :nod: ... I will say that the mental part is always the hardest. The thing that helped me the most was to hear from Dr. Lisle that we are psychological set up to crave calorie dense food. It's not our faults that we want chocolate and oil. It's the way it's set up because our ancestors needed the highest calorie dense food to survive. I kind of have a process where I talk myself out of eating high calorie dense food and I'm always looking for the more bang for my buck. Do I want candy or do I want to be able to eat a large salad, steamed greens, and starch for the same calories. Somedays I lose the battle and go for the candy but lately I want the most bang for my buck!! One other thing for you to think about and maybe do this weekend is look through the recipes online here and cook up some foods that are somewhat similar to what you want. Will it be the same? No, but maybe close enough to shut those cravings up.

Also, be careful with setting yourself up for defeat--"you will probably lose again today." No No No. Get rid of that. Remember that each meal is a chance to turn it all around. I think yesterday's menu is a good example of that. So some of your food was not what it should have been but instead of saying the hell with the whole day--let the next meal or next snack be on plan. Every time you eat is a chance to have something different. It is a process and a transition.

I'm glad you are getting rid of those insane challenges like lose a pound a day or exercise 2 hours! Man can I relate with those. I used to have the same mentality and I brought it to this plan with me but after a while I learned that with my history of perfection and none or nothing at all personality was not working for me. I made the commitment that I would say on plan and follow the Mcdougall program because it was healthy and good for my body. I will not set up deadlines or extremes for this. My only goal was to stay on Plan, sometimes we gotta start small!!

I'm so enjoying your journey here so far--I see such parallels. It excites me. Stick with this Julia, you will not be disappointed, as crazy as it may seem right now :) :nod:


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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
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I dropped off the face of the earth for a while (at least on here) because I went completely off plan. That's the bad news. But here's the good: I finally got through an entire day of eating right and not cheating.

It was hard, and that's an understatement. The end of the day was the worst. I had a headache, I was exhausted, and all I could think about was sleep and food. I went home and ate some pasta with fresh tomato sauce (a can of tomatoes, some garlic and basil, a little black pepper). I ate until I wasn't hungry, and then I ate a little more. I knew what was coming--the cravings, the weak willpower--and I wanted to prepare as best I could, with a full belly.

It didn't really matter. I was full but I wanted to eat. I missed my parmesan cheese and my butter, even the ground beef that I used to add to the sauce. I wanted my old, familiar, comfort foods to hit my taste buds and calm me down. I realize now that's what I've been doing all these years, using food as an anti-anxiety med. So, yesterday, when I went off cold-turkey, it felt like the world was sharper, louder...and it didn't feel good.

I slept and had a full night of stress dreams. It was as if my brain was throwing every typical teeth-grinder at me all at once: I was in my old hometown and had to go back to high school for some reason, I was again working at the deli I hated, I couldn’t find my son anywhere, my family was waiting for me to pick them up and I couldn’t get the car to start, I kept getting lost, I was missing mysterious but important appointments and no matter how fast I moved I couldn’t get anywhere and nothing got done. And shot through it all was one central theme: food. I was hungry in my dreams, but everywhere I went there was no food, or I didn’t have any money, or the food was uncooked, or I was endlessly driving to a restaurant that never appeared. Oddly, though I wasn’t alert enough to know I was dreaming, I did at one point stop and say, “Why do I need to attend high school again? I have a freaking Master’s degree.” But it wasn’t enough to break me out of there.

I woke late with a sore jaw from grinding my teeth. I didn’t want to get out of bed. I wanted to run to the grocery store, buy bags of comfort food, call in sick and hole up in my house, eating, eating, eating. But I got up, showered, dressed, set my oatmeal with green apple and cinnamon on the stove to cook while I packed my lunch of veggie chili, corn tortillas and a big green salad. I sat at my kitchen table and ate every bite of my oatmeal even though it still tasted bland no matter how much cinnamon I sprinkled on it. Now I’m here at work, hoping the day flies by without anyone wanting me to do too much because I need to survive this day like I did yesterday. I’m trying to realize my dream of eating right for one whole entire week, and this is only day two.

But it’s not all doom and gloom. And, really, what I just wrote isn’t doom and gloom, either. It’s just the truth. It’s a bit doom-y and gloom-y at the moment, I’ll admit that, but this is a huge life change I’m making here and if it were easy-peasy, well, I’d have done it a long time ago. I knew it would be hard going in, and it is. But I also know that things always get easier with time and practice. We are an adaptable species. I hope I adapt soon. In the meantime, I have to say that even though my dreams were rough, I’m wide awake right now. At no point yesterday (or this morning) was I hungry. And let’s just say that I’m making more visits to the lavatory. I wasn’t ever deficient in that area to begin with, but now I’m a real restroom superstar. And when I looked at a picture of a pretty girl of a healthy weight in a nice dress I didn’t think, for once, that looking like that would be an impossible dream. I thought, for once, that it was only a matter of time.

To all those reading along with me here, and posting wonderful, positive comments, please forgive me for not responding individually to your welcome support. I’m trying to keep my head down and focus, focus, focus, so I hope you’ll accept a group Thank you! and the knowledge that I really do read all comments and take each of them to heart. They help immeasurably. My gratitude is even bigger than my appetite.

-Julia


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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
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OH, way to go, girl!! Just think about and deal with one meal at a time, and stay alert to what you are doing. Getting through your first full day is a major milestone, and one you can build on, going forward. Just accepting that you have a food addiction problem is a huge step on the road to dealing with it.

May I suggest a couple of books? "The Pleasure Trap" and "Taming the Feast Beast" are both excellent books on dealing with food addiction. Just taking the leap of thinking in terms of an addiction is very empowering because there are well-known tools for dealing with it.

I've been in the process of breaking out of addiction for the past 9 weeks, and it truly has gotten easier over time. I've been getting coaching from SactoBob over at his new website. If you'd like to read the thread that holds our 9-week conversation, please check it out here: http://bobandfarley.com/index.php?topic=106.0
I'm hoping that what I've been doing might give you some tools and some inspiration. The journey has not been easy, and I'm not nearly at the end of it (well, really, this journey lasts as long as we live!), but progress is being made following a long, long time of being stuck and in denial.

You can do this! What you posted today shows that you are connecting the dots and facing the challenges. You should feel proud of yourself for that, and even prouder as time goes on.

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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:12 am 
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I’m trying to realize my dream of eating right for one whole entire week, and this is only day two.
-Julia


Yes it's only day two but you have made it two days already! That's a mighty hurdle indeed. As the Chinese proverb says, "A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step."

Good luck with today! :nod:


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JuliaG wrote:
But it’s not all doom and gloom. And, really, what I just wrote isn’t doom and gloom, either. It’s just the truth.
I like your spirit of honesty and your perspective on where you are right now. When you look back on this hurdle from the other side of it, it won't seem like it was such a big deal. I promise!

You can do this!

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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
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Gweithgar wrote:
OH, way to go, girl!! Just think about and deal with one meal at a time, and stay alert to what you are doing. Getting through your first full day is a major milestone, and one you can build on, going forward. Just accepting that you have a food addiction problem is a huge step on the road to dealing with it.

May I suggest a couple of books? "The Pleasure Trap" and "Taming the Feast Beast" are both excellent books on dealing with food addiction. Just taking the leap of thinking in terms of an addiction is very empowering because there are well-known tools for dealing with it.


Thank you, Cyn! What a wonderful thing to read from you. The beginning of your post made me smile a mile wide. And those are two books I've not yet read, so I'm on it! And I will love reading about your journey. It helps to know there are so many others in similar situations, and I need to know how they coped. Thank you for offering your story.


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PotatoFiend wrote:
Yes it's only day two but you have made it two days already! That's a mighty hurdle indeed. As the Chinese proverb says, "A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step."

Good luck with today! :nod:


Very true, and I thank you for the reminder. (And I, too, am a potato fiend, by the way!) Hopefully, tomorrow I'll be able to say, "It's only been THREE days!" :)


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Norm wrote:
I like your spirit of honesty and your perspective on where you are right now. When you look back on this hurdle from the other side of it, it won't seem like it was such a big deal. I promise!

You can do this!

-Norm


Thanks so much, Norm. Your story is an inspiration to me. I'll remember what you said.


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 Post subject: Re: Fat Girl Trying to Find the Will to Change
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Hi Julia,

Just wanted to add my support for a first day well done and for a successful second day to follow!

Folks like Cyn and Norm have great experience and advice to share, and you will learn a lot from them! But even as a relative newbie, I can tell you that it does get easier. It took a few weeks for my junk cravings to fade, but avoiding sugar and fat really worked to change my taste buds (and my brain!), and now my cravings are easily satisfied by a sweet potato or some lovely beans. Of course, I also discovered that if I eat some sweet, fatty, processed thing, the old cravings kick right back in. Since I don't want to keep starting from scratch, it is best for me to just avoid those triggers altogether. My feast beast (aka inner demon brat :) ) may never completely die, but that doesn't mean I need to feed it!

So you may need an extra measure of determination at first, but as you develop good habits and re-train your brain, it will get easier, I promise!

I look forward to reading about your journey. You can do this!

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