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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:27 am 
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Dissolution wrote:
Anybody ever seen the movie "Defending Your Life"? In short, people on Earth only use 3% - 5% of their brain, and thus spend most of their time dealing with fear. When they die, their lives are evaluated to determine if they are ready to move to the next stage.


Only one of my favorite movie of all time!!!!

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The people doing the evaluating all use 45% or more of their brain. There's a scene where the 3%'er and the 48%'er are eating. The smart guy is eating something that looks really bad. The 3%'er asks what it is and is told he wouldn't understand or like it. He tries anyways and doesn't like it. This is what my life feels like. My friends and family are all fascinated by what I'm eating or am going to eat, but none of them like it or try it.



What a cool analogy - I'll have to remember thinking of this next time I catch crap from someone about my food choices.

Glad you at least overheard your wife encouraging your diet!

And glad the Beast went back in the cage, succumbing to reasonable, high-brain function common sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:52 pm 
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I loved the Avengers!! it was the best super hero movie I ever say, altho I also loved the one that was all animated and had the guys who were in hiding due to their powers got them sued so many times. cannot remember the name now. It was cool.....
Never saw defenders of the earth!
I do love the meatless loafs!! I am making one up for youngest son this wkend!@!
have a good wkend with friends, the proof is in the pudding, and you know this WOE works for you!!

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
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I looked up "Defending your Life" and I found it on Netflix instant watch. Also Dis could you lead me to the loaf recipe or post it for me. I have heard great things about it and want to make sure I make the right one.....Thanks

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:27 am 
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Dis,
I was over on Dr. Fuhrman's Diseaseproof blog and came across the following quote that made me think of you.

"For anyone discouraged. For anyone down-in-the-dumps. For anyone feeling like food cravings are just too big of an obstacle to successfully and permanently overcome - don't believe the lie. There are some real down-and-outers out there; be free by running in the opposite direction of their negativity... Don't get ensnared and entangled by their ignorant deceit. They are only satisfied when they have enticed you into their net of captivity.
 
The truth of the matter is . . . disease is just too big of an obstacle to deal with.

No human should suffer needlessly. Our bodies weren't made to lie in ICU beds on beautiful days in May, hooked up to machines, and caught in a vicious cycle of expensive medications, lab tests, and doctor appointments for the rest of our lives. No way! Our bodies were designed to function in full health. Vibrant health. Unburdened by rolls of fat, aches, pains, and chests cut open & torn apart to temporarily repair the senseless damage within. We are masterpiece works of art - designed for beauty, fresh air, and a fully functioning body!

Kick fat and disease out the door.

Go for it.

Do it!

Don't hang out with those who think you are crazy for earning health back. Don't listen to those who think you are an odd-ball because you eat only when hungry.  Turn a deaf ear to the naysayers.  Cultivate new and healthy friendships; AND be willing to be laughed at, scoffed at, and ridiculed for living in health!

Be normal. Be free from addiction. Be vibrant. Be healthy!"

Hope you had a great holiday.

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:31 pm 
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Katy I love that long quote.
Dis :It is so true in my life especially this past weekend, at my son's wedding I saw many people who could not stop commenting on my healthy look, thinner and so much younger looking esp for someone about to turn 60. It was so cool! There were about 6 of us who asked for the vegetarian meal and I had also requested on oils for my and 2 sons vegan. sons' Gf had the sauce and it did not look too oily to me, as she sat next to me! A lady at the reception walked around looking for the vegans, and found us! Our meals were just steamed and looked great! the other veggie meals included a marinara sauce that must have had some oils, so were got the plain ones, and I loved it. There was a huge relish tray of cut of veggies, and that was great too. So many of the ones who had not seen me in a long time were so amazed. It was a good experience that really reinforced my desire to stay the course.
I made my son and his Gf vegan loaf and my brother just tried it and said he loved it. He left with my Quick and Easy McDougall cook book, he and his oldest daughter are going to try to eat Vegan for one week. and he needed some recipes.... He also logged on to this website too for the free program.
I really do not want to be pushy of course and I used the one liner from Dr Lisle , that it just seemed to be working for me!!
dis can't wait to her about your wkend and the surprise look on your friends faces!

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:04 am 
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Rosey I often wonder how much the Atkins diet contributed to me having a heart attack so young.

nicoles I tried finding the clip of that scene online, but couldn't.

Christine in Cali This is the one I used, which I think is the one carollynne used, which is where I got the idea. It was really very very good.

Katydid Thanks so much for that post. Sometimes it does feel like I am constantly under attack for my dietary choices. Lately I have been trying to end any food related arguments with the wife by asking her what she would have me change, if eating meat would make her happy. She generally backs down at that point.

Her new tactic is to tell me I smell bad. I have never had a BO problem in my life. I'm one of those kind of people that deodorant, is completely optional. My claim is that I'm not using any single spice excessively, so I tell her it's psycho semantic. Then I bring up the oatmeal incident (she claimed I was stinking up the house by cooking up something foul and it was plain oatmeal). Her counter is I put weird stuff into my oatmeal (flaxseed meal and date sugar), I said yes, but not while it's cooking.

carollynne Wow, sounds like you had a great weekend! Great news about your Brother and Niece giving it a shot. I know most of us don't eat the faux meat dishes very often, but they do have their place and are especially helpful with getting the non-vegans to understand that life without meat is possible.
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Thursday:

Friend arrive late, they are shocked. They had expected some weight loss, they had seen my winter pictures and #4'sGF had told them I had lost a lot of weight. Still, they were not prepared. Told my friend "T" about the diet and the benefits, he asked a few questions.

Equally as shocking was T's wife "C", had put 40 pounds on her 5' 0" frame. She's also developed asthma and is borderline COPD, and is using a nebulizer a couple of times a day.

Friday:

#2 Son stops by for breakfast with our friends. Everybody is sitting down, I had already eaten oatmeal, but figured I would sit down with them and have something with jelly on it. I reached into the trash to pull out the bag the frozen biscuits came in to see the ingredient and fat content. They were really bad, 4g of trans fat per biscuit. #2 Son (the E2 dieter) starts goading me, "Ah come on, a few biscuits aren't going to kill you." My reply was, "You say biscuits, I say "Flaky Death".

#2 Son has been bragging about being off his vegan diet and how much bad stuff he is eating. He has put on 12 of the 30 pounds he lost. He's going to be wanting his clothes back if he keeps this up.

The wife was planning on making lasagna for Friday night dinner. She was going out with "C" and their daughters to pick strawberries and show them how to make strawberry freezer jam. That left "T" and I to do whatever we wanted.

"T" and I were doing out running around. I told him about how much my diet had stressed my marriage, and he asked lots of questions about this way of eating. Were were near the co-op / organic grocery store and we were both hungry. The co-op has a place to eat, that carries vegan menu items, so that's where we went. I was surprised when "T" ordered exactly the same thing I did. It was a tempeh sandwich, which he seemed to enjoy a lot.

We got a call late in the afternoon, my Wife's blood sugar had gotten so bad after a trip to DQ, that "C" had to drive back to the house. They called back later and wanted to know if hamburger helper would be ok for dinner since the wife wasn't feeling much like cooking. We said it would be fine.

When we got home, #4 and his GF were making the HH. I made this for myself. http://www.forksoverknives.com/cajun-cornbread-casserole/ I offered "T" some, and he had seconds.

Saturday:

"T" and I normally go to yard sales when he visits. I bought a brand new in the box 5 cup rice cooker for $2. My Wife collects cook books, so I found one published in 1897 called The White House Cookbook. It had an impression of The White House on the cover.

I didn't speak much about diet or food much, was trying to make sure I didn't come across as obsessive.

Saturday night was our scheduled night to go out, just the adults to "fancy" restaurant. #1 Son and his wife called and wanted to see "T" and "C", but were tied up all weekend, and wanted to know if they could intrude on our Saturday night out. So they came along. I warned the restaurant ahead of time that I was vegan (they normally have a vegetarian menu).

#1 Son was shocked when he saw me, guess it was the pants, and the tie. At some point when the Wife commented about how difficult it was to eat out with me, #1 Son said, "Look at him! Argument over!". That made me feel good. They restaurant we ate at, is probably one of the best in a 40 mile radius. They are really really good. However, the is the second time they have completely missed the mark on my food. Still, it was a lovely evening out.

We were planning on having a BBQ Sunday with about 22 people total, so I made these for myself ahead of time;

http://vegandad.blogspot.com/2008/03/homemade-sausages.html

http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2007/05/barbecued-seitan-ribz.html

I left out the tahini on the seitan ribs. Probably made them a little tougher, but the flavor was awesome.


Sunday:

Main thing on Sunday was, several people tried the seitan ribs. Almost everybody said something nice about them. Including my wife, she said, " I could eat this". I was shocked.

Happy Tuesday (Doesn't this feel like Monday)

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:47 am 
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Dissolution wrote:
Her new tactic is to tell me I smell bad. I have never had a BO problem in my life. I'm one of those kind of people that deodorant, is completely optional.
I have always been one of those people who needed a shower and fresh deodorant for any public excursion, if it's been more than 6-8 hours since my last shower. I've always sweated a lot and it's never been pleasant smelling.
All of this has completely changed with diet changes. My sweat no longer smells. I take showers because I'm dirty, not because I smell bad. I use deodorant only if I'm going somewhere near people and I haven't had a shower in a day or two, and even then it's "just in case". I never use deodorant fresh out of the shower. It'd be a waste!

I don't believe for a minute that your diet changes have caused you to smell bad. It's all in your wife's head!

I'm glad you had a great time with your friends. It sounds like you made an impression. Hopefully it'll result in some changes on their part for better health.

Your wife's "I could eat this" comment about the seitan ribs sounds very promising!! Keep focusing on her baby steps towards you and let everything else go. Like water off a duck. You are the duck, her negativity is the rain, and it doesn't phase the duck in the least. Be the duck! Quack!!

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
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Dissolution wrote:
Rosey I often wonder how much the Atkins diet contributed to me having a heart attack so young.

Her new tactic is to tell me I smell bad. I have never had a BO problem in my life. I'm one of those kind of people that deodorant, is completely optional. My claim is that I'm not using any single spice excessively, so I tell her it's psycho semantic. Then I bring up the oatmeal incident (she claimed I was stinking up the house by cooking up something foul and it was plain oatmeal). Her counter is I put weird stuff into my oatmeal (flaxseed meal and date sugar), I said yes, but not while it's cooking.


It very well could be part of what made you have heart attack so young.

As for smell everyone has been telling my mom, and I all that we don't smell even when we fart laugh. Even my hubby is getting told he smells less then he used too. So I highly doubt that you are smelling worse.

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
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"psycho semantic"


:lol: Was that spelling intentional there? 'Cause it cracked me up.


I've tried those seitan ribs when I first gave up meat. Not bad, as I recall. I hope you keep finding healthy food options your wife likes. That's half the battle won.

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
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Dis - the smell thing is almost positively just a tactic, like you said.

Norm wrote:
Your wife's "I could eat this" comment about the seitan ribs sounds very promising!! Keep focusing on her baby steps towards you and let everything else go. Like water off a duck. You are the duck, her negativity is the rain, and it doesn't phase the duck in the least. Be the duck! Quack!!



I agree with Norm, it IS promising - keep quacking!

And Rosey? the term Fart Laugh made me embody it!

Agnes - psycho semantic cracked me up, too. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
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And Rosey? the term Fart Laugh made me embody it!


Laugh. there should of been a . between Fart and laugh but that works. I'm always typing my laugh and smiles and giggles etc....

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
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Sounds like your weekend was a good one, DIS, so glad that you are setting a good example for others. It is so cool, the comment that the son made that Look at him, argument over! So true. One look and I'd be a believer too. I was so surprised that the reception place was so accommodating to us oil free vegans. that is a real first, as the reh. dinner, we (the vegan) got stuffed green peppers, stuffed with a vegan kind of who knows what grain mix or textured stuff??? with some corn. but the potato wedges were oil free, and so were the green beans. the owner and cook, said they used some tomato juice and water. Son really thought he noticed some glistening tell tale of oil, but I really did not! For once it was great to be at a restaurant!
Dis Your wife is so determined to do herself in, and no one can stop her. Public opinion, popular opinion and the mirror will never do it I guess.
My husband got another scare today at doctor's office and he is saying that he will try vegan with us here, but the battle cry was but what am I going to eat?? and he was dead serious too. I told him, you can eat what your son and I eat and you know how he loves to cook... I can only hope this will happen!
Sorry to high jack your journal here, but knowing what you post here is a big help to all of us with family non-support spouses! He needs to eat a ton of antioxidants daily, and supposedly take pills to supplement, so I said repeatedly to him, just go vegan, with son and I!! And this line got to him, would you really rather go_____ than at least try the vegan WOE?? Finally he gave me the high 5 and said he'd do it!!

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 Post subject: Re: Dissolution's Solution
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Norm I'll just keep quacking along then. She did mention my BM's smelled different, but she didn't say worse, cause I don't think anybody could lie that much. I forget if it was after Thanksgiving or Christmas where in the bathroom after eating meat, I thought I was going to die from the smell.

Rosey Fart laugh...haha

AlwaysAgnes It made me laugh when you pointed it out. I'm going to go with Freudian....

nicoles I guess I've had to disconnect myself from the thought that my Wife might one day switch to this way of eating, that I took her comment as more of a "Oh, not everything you eat is disgusting", rather than leaning towards changing her ways.

carollynne It just makes good business sense to cater to all types of eating. A friend of mine took his Mother to the same restaurant we went to on Saturday night. She has bad food allergies, and is on some kind of bizarre rotation diet. My friend gave the manager a list, he had to send someone to the grocery store, and the woman had her first restaurant meal out in 20 years. Of course that same place is 0-2 for my vegan meals. Go figure.

"What am I going to eat?" Really? After being around you, that comment is just silly. But I guess, that's the first thing that came to my mind when I decided to try it.

You didn't mention what your DH's diagnosis was. I wish you both, the best of luck!

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Dis-- weight is melting off? wow, that sounds so nice. You go guy!
So far so good today. we are all doing ok, and I hope it will continue .....
Hope you get better and better too.
well, it has been a good day here! hope yours was as well. :) :) :)

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