is global warming really true??

lmorris · **Joined:** Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:57 pm **Posts:** 1

I believe that global warming won't be happening... it would be global cooling instead!!!! Th sun itself doesn't get hotter but it gets cooler with time.

simoncat · **Joined:** Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:17 pm **Posts:** 414

What about what is happening with the Arctic and the polar bears? It is already happening!!!

Burgess · **Posted:** Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:54 pm

simoncat wrote:

What about what is happening with the Arctic and the polar bears? It is already happening!!!

Is the Artic the globe?

Ege Bamyasi · **Joined:** Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:03 pm **Posts:** 905

Gramma Jackie · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:42 pm

Deehege wrote:

Scientists all over the world are talking about global warming. All you need to do is go to youtube and listen to all the presentations. It is real, it is happening all over the world and it is on your doorstep wherever you are. All the disasters like tsunamis, earthquakes are partly due to global warming. Take a look at the weather in UK. We no longer have summers or winters for that matter. If you need more evidence you might be dead by the time you find out.

Not trying to be a contrarian, but earthquakes and the resulting tsunamis are not caused by global warming or any other atmospheric condition. They are caused by the shifting of the earth's plates which is a geologic condition and nothing whatsoever to do with the climate. Research shows that the planet is warming and that has already caused and will continue to cause changes in the climate around the world. Scientists have done computer models which show that sea levels will rise, deserts will increase in size and there will be more extreme weather. However earthquakes and tsunamis are not related to climate or weather.

mikedyzios · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:43 am **Posts:** 1

Ege Bamyasi wrote:

Burgess wrote:

simoncat wrote:

What about what is happening with the Arctic and the polar bears? It is already happening!!!

Is the Artic the globe?

I like to think of it as a puking sick canary in a coal mine, with copious strings of green bird phlegm hanging from its beak and puddling at its feet, myself.

Arctic sea ice volume by month in cubic kilometers (with simple quadratic trend lines projecting to zero volume, details here). The bottom (red) line is September volume.

http://www.scienceprogress.org/2011/05/ ... continues/

Money quote at the end of the article:

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A 2008 study led by David Lawrence of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) concluded:

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We find that simulated western Arctic land warming trends during rapid sea ice loss are 3.5 times greater than secular 21st century climate-change trends. The accelerated warming signal penetrates up to 1500 km inland….

In other words, if it continues, the recent trend in sea ice loss may triple overall Arctic warming, causing large emissions in carbon dioxide and methane from the tundra this century (for a review of recent literature on the tundra, see here). Indeed, Lawrence himself said, “Our study suggests that, if sea-ice continues to contract rapidly over the next several years, Arctic land warming and permafrost thaw are likely to accelerate.”

A February study by National Snow and Ice Data Center with conservative assumptions concluded, “Thawing permafrost feedback will turn Arctic from carbon sink to source in the 2020s, releasing 100 billion tons of carbon by 2100.” The paleoclimate record is not reassuring. And the National Science Foundation in 2010 even pointed out, “release of even a fraction of the methane stored in the [Eastern Siberian] shelf could trigger abrupt climate warming.”

Long but excellent read.

Thanks for the awareness and may god bless you.

nofriendofYale · **Posted:** Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:16 pm

True, earthquakes and tsunamis are not related to global warming BUT the increase in number and intensity of many other natural disasters such as hurricanes, floods, droughts, and the huge wild fires, to name a few, ARE.

This year we have seen:

-the highest temperature ever recorded in Pakistan (129 F - I believe),

-the worst flood in Pakistan's history displacing over 1 million people,

-the melting of glaciers around the world. one/third of the world's population is dependent on agriculture grown on land fed during the dry season by the glaciers. Once they are gone then these areas will be beset be flooding in the rainy season and drought during the dry season.

All over the world climate change events are happening. The Global South is tragically the most affected, but we are getting it here as well.

Time to wake up and drive the Climate Change deniers like Big Oil out of the seats of power.

Gramma Jackie · **Posted:** Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:48 am

Dear nofriendofYale,

I certainly think climate change is real. I simply wanted to clarify the misconception that geological events are caused by meterological events. They are not. However meterological events can be caused by geological events. For instance volcanoes can affect climate. So when you add the pollution of burning rain forests, industrial and auto emissions, massive stockyards, etc. to natural events such as volcanoes and naturally occuring wildfires it just speeds up the process and compounds the effects of climate change.

jmorrishicks · **Posted:** Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:17 am

Hello LMorris,

Hey, we share a name (morris). Yes I do; because a huge majority of the scientists have agreed that it is indeed for real. But did you see Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth? If so, you may have noticed that he "conveniently" ignored the single biggest cause of global warming -- the raising of livestock.

I learned that from the 2006 UN Study, Livestock's Long Shadow, that I first learned about on this site. I have since written a book, which will be out soon. We have a complete chapter on the environmental damage being caused by the typical Western diet.

Our book is featured on my blog site at: www.healthyeatinghealthyworld.com One of my recent posts on global warming can be found by clicking www.hpjmh.com/2011/04/14/flatulent-cows ... he-planet/

Best, J. Morris Hicks
writer, speaker, blogger, consultant and coach

Mober · **Joined:** Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:45 pm **Posts:** 293

My neighbors dad is a climatologist in Iowa. He meets and talks with many farmers on the topic, which by and large there is not a warm reception to the topic. He asks them when they planted corn this year. Ok when did you plant 10-20 years ago? The light bulb goes on as they realize they used to plant in end of May now they do at the beginning. Its so weird to me that change is nearly universally accepted by scientists but the public gets fed so much doubt. Btw, did you know the city of Chicago stopped planting trees they normally do and are beginning to plant warmer climate trees, assuming temps will rise over the lifetime of the new trees?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/scien ... wanted=all

Eventually it will be very cool as there won't be a sun, in the mean time it will actually get hotter but way too slow to matter in any timeframe we can fathom.

http://www.solarspace.co.uk/Sun.php

Gramma Jackie · **Posted:** Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:23 pm

Mober wrote:

My neighbors dad is a climatologist in Iowa. He meets and talks with many farmers on the topic, which by and large there is not a warm reception to the topic. He asks them when they planted corn this year. Ok when did you plant 10-20 years ago? The light bulb goes on as they realize they used to plant in end of May now they do at the beginning. Its so weird to me that change is nearly universally accepted by scientists but the public gets fed so much doubt. Btw, did you know the city of Chicago stopped planting trees they normally do and are beginning to plant warmer climate trees, assuming temps will rise over the lifetime of the new trees?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/scien ... wanted=all

Eventually it will be very cool as there won't be a sun, in the mean time it will actually get hotter but way too slow to matter in any timeframe we can fathom.

http://www.solarspace.co.uk/Sun.php

Our local weathermen have been describing this summer as "tropical" and I live in Ohio. I once lived in Guam, US Territory when my husband was stationed there in the Air Force. This summer's weather reminds me of that climate.

eaufraiche703 · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:41 am

oy. this ship has sailed, bereft of an impressive number of expert proponents....

does that mean we shouldn't be more responsible stewards of this wonderful planet - course not!

ajackson · **Joined:** Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:28 am **Posts:** 1

Unfortunatley Global warming is true and nowadays we are confronting it.
Global warming is a matter of great concern that is unfortunately quite often overlooked in light of other problems that seem to be more immediately demanding.
Global Warming, or what has been called the Greenhouse effect, is the result of a fourfold ecological process.
There are many problems that are causing global warming, and if they are not rectified, or at least prevented from here on out there are going to be some severe ramifications in the near future.

johntevez · **Joined:** Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:38 am **Posts:** 1

I don't think any serious person actually believes that the world isn't getting warmer. We don't even need any scientific statistics to understand that, just compare things today with how they were 15 years ago.

What some specialists aren't still sure (or perhaps don't want to be sure) is whether this fenomenon is caused by human activity. But no one can seriously deny that global warming is a fact...

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