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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P70SlEqX7oY&feature=sub

All of the other videos put out by this gentleman are must-watches as well.

I've known global warming is a fraud for years now and the hacked emails doesn't come as any surprise. Funny thing is i just got more snow at my house in the last couple days then I've gotten in 20 years. it also snowed in Sacramento which is extremely rare.
It's all about profits. carbon tax which will be paid to private interest and will rob the middle class and lead many people on the verge of starving to death to not afford the basics.

So, a few days' weather in your locale is enough to trump decades of global climate data?

Interesting.

Sadly, my efforts to provide a global temperature anomaly graph showing this last October vs. October from 1951-1980 isn't working right. My source was http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/maps/ and you can go there and plug in the data yourself.

The kind of massive heatwaves depicted in the data set below, sadly, are anything but rare. Just ask the hundreds of farmers who have either packed up and left the Murray River Basin in recent years, or who have committed suicide because of year after year of excessive heat and/or lack of rainfall.



You want all these readings in degrees Fahrenheit? Multiply what you see in the graphs by 1.8 then.

So...may I ask just what data you can present that proves all of this climate change stuff to be a hoax?

how many decades of data would be necessary to prove there is global warming that can be linked to human misuse of resources? we don't have that empirical evidence. on a personal level, conserving resources seems prudent regardless of whether or not there is a manufactured and controllable global warming.

re: copenhagen and proposed expenditures... why would our leaders want to assume even more debt to eradicate a nonproblem? what exactly would be their motivation - or is it just naivete or ignorance?

No empirical evidence? Then what's this?





Ask India. It would appear they're building a 2,100-mile barbed wire fence to deal with this "nonproblem".

http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 44395.aspx



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I've done enough research to know it's a fraud. If there is such thing as Global warming which is still debatable knowing how much of that is caused by humans is not possible at this time. The earth is always changing going through colder periods and warmer periods. Some of the Key people behind the current global warming movement are the same individuals that were behind the Global cooling talk in the 70's. Current White house science czar John Holdren was one of them.

“I believe that increasing global air pollution, through its effect on the reflectivity of the earth, is currently dominant and is responsible for the temperature decline of the past decade or so.”

“Many observers have speculated that the cooling could be the beginning of a long and persistent trend in that direction—that is, an inevitable departure from an abnormally warm period in climatic history.”


Now lets say for the sake of argument Global Warming is legitimate and humans Carbon emissions are the reason behind it. Does Taxing the already over taxed middle to lower class in the world with a global carbon tax paid to off shore private interests sound like a good idea? Meanwhile people like Al Gore and Anold and many others talk about saving the planet while they're commuting back and forth to work in private jets/ owning many houses, fancy cars, lavish lifestyles. A global carbon tax will be a absolute disaster for the 3rd word and would continue the trend of the middle class sliding into poverty like we're seeing now as the gap between the rich and the middle class grows. Man made Co2 isn't causing the ice cap melting on mars is it?

This coming wednesday evening, 12/16, there is an investigative story on Global Warming. It's on the TRUTV channel. Here in Las Vegas, it's channel 54. 10pm.
I think they are going to set out to prove that global warming is a hoax. I am going to be watching it.

Yeah that's Jesse Ventura's new show where he shows the other side of the different conspiracy theories that have happened recently. Global warming, 911 and some other ones.

Ege,

I'm impressed that you keep working on stating the global warming case on this discussion board.

Despite that almost 100% of climatologists have no doubt that global warming is caused by human activity, you will never get 100% of people to agree with it because the changes required by humans to reduce carbon emissions are so great that people prefer to hear "good things about their bad habits", instead of face the music.

I have long given up on this "global warming" forum for discussions on global warming. I have chosen instead to get my information from public TV and radio, and through world renowned scientists and Nobel prize winners.

Keep up the good work Ege. You are not alone in your concerns about the future of this planet.

Yvie

I live in Australia that has just registered the highest temperatures over the last decade of all time. Here there is no doubt that global temperatures are rising, especially in my state of Western Australia.

The feature of global warming is extremes. One place will boil and others will freeze. The ice in Antartica is melting and that should be proof enough that the globe is getting hotter. Before long, the tiny Pacific Ocean nations of Tuvalu and Kiribatti will be underwater and large areas of Bangladesh flooded permantly.

Can we afford to argue while nations sink beneath the waves?