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Taking your 93 year old, diabetic, 60 pound overweight father-in-law to the docter. The man literally lives on hamburgers, hot dogs, fries and corned beef sandwiches. He pretty much hasn't eaten a vegetable since 1958. "Poor people and peasants have to eat vegetables" He did have a quintuple by-pass 25 years ago. Total cholesteral 112! LDL 50. I've been told to get off his back about diet.

Unfortunately, those statistics do not mean he is healthy, as you know, and he may never hear a wake up call.

It seems that relatively few are determined to achieve their genetic potential in regard to health and longevity. If you are one of the few, Geaugans, congratulations!

Identity is entangled in the food we eat. That is what is so great in understanding subconsciously we eat the same amount of weight of food daily and it is only the higher calorie density foods that are easy to overeat. So your father in-law mirrors that part of us that has been asleep. He is still assisting us in waking up to know we are consciously passionate for life. When the past/subconscious comes together with the conscious/future mind, we are able to act as if in coming together in passion: compassion. Feedback is very important. It is always inside out. Depression is just depressed energy. A shift of attitude is heaven. The food and medical industry are run on no-placebo. They are like a shadow, when you look it disappears. Each of us is living system that self-orangizes within a eternal river, like a whirlpool that never loses its form.

Aloha, patty

Exactly what is this guy's genetic potential? He as reached 93 despite bypass surgery, diabetes and being over weight and is enjoying the food he loves to eat. What can one say to him? Gee,dad, you better watch what you eat or you will never make it to 125?

Didi

Probably, like you, Didi, he had the genetic potential to have prevented obesity, diabetes and heart disease.

I guarantee he is on cholesterol meds. Being alive is not the same thing as living. My mom is a medicated SAD eater also and she has great numbers but can't walk 50 feet without unbearable pain. She neither looks good nor feels good. Her life consists of getting from one room to another and endless television watching. Now THAT is depressing .

~ Erin

I so agree - being alive is not the same thing as living. He probably has many health problems he doesn't tell you about - constipation for one thing! His Ph balance is no doubt way off. Yes he made it to this old age but having a by-pass was probably no picnic for him! He sounds ignorant saying poor people eat vegetables. People my age won't change their diets and lifestyles so this old geezer isn't about to change either. I know it is depressing to be around him. I went though this with my 81 year old aunt. Her diet was basically red meat & bourbon & sweets. She only made it to age 83 and the last 5 years of her life were hell.

I would leave him alone. He's 93. Changing his diet now wouldn't make that much difference and 93 is a good innings!

Let him eat what he wants, we all have that choice. At his age he isn't going to change so why bother, and remember to enjoy him as much as you can.

93 is still young. There is are four control dramas: intimidation, interrogation, aloofness and poor me. When reacting, it is just to check to see which control drama you are reacting with. Say if I am intimidated from someone's lifestyle, where I feel I am matching with poor me, once I catch it there is a emotional shift where my hippocampus thrives. We all have matching junk that transcends upon matching allurement. Fight and flight releases cortisol and has natural consequences, it is only when we emotionally detach they aren't any. Sometimes the caregiver dies before the person they are caregiving. And there can be social consequences when someone in your care transcends from a wound that started out from a bedsore that could be avoided with diet and hygiene. So it is not so easy to let him eat what he wants. We feed off each other, the skill is in the catabolic stage.

Aloha, patty

Actually he takes NO cholesterol meds. No question he has other medical problems as a result of many years of smoking but he still drives and walks every day. My mother mad it to 93 and my dad too 100. Those depression kids were tough! And, they all hated doctors!

Um . . . no, it's not. I don't know what planet you live on but here on Planet Earth 93 is quite old, and nothing we do food-wise is going to change that. At least, I hope it does not--we hardly need human beings living longer than they are now!

This guy has lived far longer than most people do, and especially given his diet, that's pretty darn good.

Good for him to make it to 93. I still volunteer at several Hospice centers several times a month... at 93 the last thing I'd be worrying about or allowing myself to become depressed about is what a person was eating... though such feelings are certainly understandable... Best of luck to you and your father in law

In the islands in my reality, 93 is still young. And I believe youth is a state of attitude and with the elderly it is a gift to celebrate the aging process. In someone's last stages of life, living one day at a time, it is important to assist them to make a conscious transition. The skin is a digestive organ.. what you eat makes a difference. As so when and if diet creates a visible problem take the opportunity to make changes.

Dr. McDougall shares on the MS video, about a natural death where the heart shuts down and all the organs follow. Everyone has that right to experience that gift. It is never too late. Never give up because we are restructuring reality of where nothing is lost.

Aloha, patty

And you probably should get off his back, unless you're a monkey.

We can't change other people, but we might be able to annoy them to death.