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 Post subject: Corn Thins
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:06 pm 
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I found this snack and I thought it was healthy.
However it upset my stomach like oily foods used to.
Could they be hiding oil from the ingredients?

Here is what is listed on the package:
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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:31 pm 
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So when I hear the word "linseed" the first thing that comes to my mind is OIL. Linseed oil is from flax and it states in the ingredients- Organic Flaxseed (4%) , this might be how they are cooking the corn thins...

Did you also notice right above ingredients it has the breakdown of fat/chol/sodium/carbs/fiber? On a 2000 calorie diet, it states "less than 65g total fat"! That could mean 64g of fat per serving (2 slices) and it wouldn't be lying to you. The sodium levels also look crazy high. Jeff N would definitely have a better answer for you but this looks suspicious to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:35 pm 
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Found it!
If you click on ingredients on the page you have marked, it lists everything and linseed oil (1.6%) IS an ingredient... that is why it bothers your stomach. :eek:

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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:42 pm 
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Lexus wrote:
So when I hear the word "linseed" the first thing that comes to my mind is OIL. Linseed oil is from flax and it states in the ingredients- Organic Flaxseed (4%) , this might be how they are cooking the corn thins...

Did you also notice right above ingredients it has the breakdown of fat/chol/sodium/carbs/fiber? On a 2000 calorie diet, it states "less than 65g total fat"! That could mean 64g of fat per serving (2 slices) and it wouldn't be lying to you. The sodium levels also look crazy high. Jeff N would definitely have a better answer for you but this looks suspicious to me.


Corn Thins have different varieties. We buy the Sesame ones with the ingredients 97% organic corn, 2% organic sesame seeds and sea salt. So the one with flaxseed is one of the varieties.

If linseed oil were an ingredient they would have to list it. So the ingredient is flaxseed, not the oil. Having said that, they can claim 0 fat if the fat ingredient is less than .5g per serving, but there would still have to be oil listed in the ingredients, which there isn't.

The Percent Daily Values breakdown is listed on all labels as a reference for what they are basing the percent daily value on that is listed in the nutritional breakdown. So the less than 65g fat is a reference to use for calculation, not the fat that is in the product.

It's possible that this variety doesn't agree with energy_dad because of the flaxseed, or perhaps it was a one time occurrence, or there's just something about the product. Like I said, we buy the Sesame variety which my DH eats all the time with no trouble. I love them but stay away because I'll eat too many and they are higher calorie density.


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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:52 pm 
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This is the listing of ingredients for corn thins off of their own website. You decide whether it has oil in it.

MAIZE (89%)
LINSEED (7%)
SOY (2%)
LINSEED OIL (1.6%)
SEA SALT
HERB EXTRACT

http://www.cornthins.com/prodSoy.aspx

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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:31 pm 
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Lexus wrote:
This is the listing of ingredients for corn thins off of their own website. You decide whether it has oil in it.

MAIZE (89%)
LINSEED (7%)
SOY (2%)
LINSEED OIL (1.6%)
SEA SALT
HERB EXTRACT

http://www.cornthins.com/prodSoy.aspx


Okay. I hadn't clicked on the link in the first post. But these are not the ingredients for "corn thins." These are the ingredients for the Soy and Flax corn thins. And now I find it very confusing because these ingredients are not the ingredients listed on the package photo.

Yes, this list does include oil so it could be bothering the poster if indeed these are the ingredients in his package. I see there is a selection box to choose which country and I'm wondering if there might be different ingredients for different countries although I would doubt that. It makes no sense to me that if linseed oil is indeed in there that it wouldn't be listed on the package label.


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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
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to_our_health wrote:
It makes no sense to me that if linseed oil is indeed in there that it wouldn't be listed on the package label.


I agree, very confusing.

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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
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The Corn Thins do differ by type. There is only one they serve at the McDougall events and that one I believe is the multigrain corn thin. I think those are the ones without added oil. And the ones that have oil list them in the ingredient breakdown.
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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
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Even those have oil:
http://cornthins.com/prodMulti.aspx

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Jeff, can you help us out here? Do any of these Corn Thins pass your guidelines?


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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:00 am 
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Yes, you are correct about all having oil. According to their website they all have added oil now and would not pass muster. We always bought one type at the store because one didn't add oil. It looks like that is no longer the case. From what I see they all have added oil and are no longer something I will purchase.
This is something we all have to be vigilant about. Products and formulations are not usually static and can change quickly. Some of our favorite products get reformulated and usually not for the better.
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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:25 am 
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I was interested in this topic as I eat Sesame Corn Thins when in England. They do not contain any added oil. Check the website for the ingredients. I believe this is the only variety that is McDougall friendly.


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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
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Zana wrote:
I was interested in this topic as I eat Sesame Corn Thins when in England. They do not contain any added oil. Check the website for the ingredients. I believe this is the only variety that is McDougall friendly.


Yes, I just checked on the website and the Sesame do not contain added oil. That's the one we eat so I'm glad to see that and at least there is still one option.


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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
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Zana wrote:
I was interested in this topic as I eat Sesame Corn Thins when in England. They do not contain any added oil. Check the website for the ingredients. I believe this is the only variety that is McDougall friendly.


Yup. No oil in the ingredients.

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Jeff, can you comment?


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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:25 pm 
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Is there anyone from McDougall's program that can comment on this?


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 Post subject: Re: Corn Thins
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:29 pm 
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You could be having an upset stomach from the soy--how do you typically tolerate soy-heavy foods, well or poorly?


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