Dr. Gregor treatment chronic fatigue syndrome Please help

Orange1 · **Joined:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:06 pm **Posts:** 167

If you own the vol 8, on track 30 there is supposed to be information on a treatment for chronic fatigue syndrome. Please tell me what it is.

Thank you.

MikkoL · **Posted:** Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:32 am

That segment is about cocoa. Here is the study in question:

High cocoa polyphenol rich chocolate may reduce the burden of the symptoms in chronic fatigue syndrome

Quote:

Results: Ten subjects were enrolled in the study. The Chalder Fatigue Scale score improved significantly after 8 weeks of the HCL/PR chocolate arm [median (range) Exact Sig. (2-tailed)] [33 (25 - 38) vs. 21.5 (6 - 35) 0.01], but that deteriorated significantly when subjects were given simulated iso-calorific chocolate (CLF/CP) [ 28.5 (17 - 20) vs. 34.5 (13-26) 0.03]. The residual function, as assessed by the London Handicap scale, also improved significantly after the HCL/PR arm [0.49 (0.33 - 0.62) vs. 0.64 (0.44 - 0.83) 0.01] and deteriorated after iso-calorific chocolate [00.44 (0.43 - 0.68) vs. 0.36 (0.33 - 0.62)0.03]. Likewise the Hospital Anxiety and Depression score also improved after the HCL/PR arm, but deteriorated after CLF/CP. Mean weight remained unchanged throughout the trial.

Conclusion: This study suggests that HCL/PR chocolate may improve symptoms in subjects with chronic fatigue syndrome.

Dr. Greger said that it would take 2,5 tablespoons of cocoa powder a day to get the same amount than what was used in the study. He also suggested that one could add the cocoa to coffee or blend it with some berries.

Orange1 · **Joined:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:06 pm **Posts:** 167

Thank you very much MikkoL!

I'll give it a go!

MikkoL · **Posted:** Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:52 am

I forgot to mention that the Latest in Clinical Nutrition Volume 8 DVD is on YouTube:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7
Part 8

The chapter dealing with chronic fatigue starts at the end of part 4. Most of it are in the beginning of part 5 (0:00-2:40).

Here is a playlist that contains all of the Latest in Clinical Nutrition DVDs and also some other stuff by Dr. Greger:

Latest in Clinical Nutrition 2007-Present

Orange1 · **Joined:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:06 pm **Posts:** 167

Thank you for all your work in bringing the information here. I watched a lot of the videos yesterday.

If polyphenols are awesome then I am making the awesomest medicine.

One apple, peanut butter, cocoa, cinnamon, sweetener blender drink. I am making this twice a day for 3 TBL total of cocoa.

If I am better in a couple months it will be so worth it!

MikkoL · **Posted:** Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:10 pm

Orange1 wrote:

Thank you for all your work in bringing the information here. I watched a lot of the videos yesterday.

You're welcome. I hope you get better soon.

Orange1 · **Joined:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:06 pm **Posts:** 167

Thanks!

I'm hoping JeffN answers as to what the improvement means in the study. I posted on his forum.

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=28512

StarchBeet · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:59 am

Thanks so much for Dr Gregors links. I am amazed to see the relationship between degenerative back disease and diet. I am so glad I've heard what the study says in his DVD! I didn't realize my eating poorly was why arteriosclerosis was affecting my back discs(among other places) and I'm glad to know I'm working on healing like Hippocrates suggested we do. Thanks to all you wonderful doctors that share truth and health.

Steelhead · **Joined:** Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:01 am **Posts:** 298

MikkoL wrote:

That segment is about cocoa. Here is the study in question:

High cocoa polyphenol rich chocolate may reduce the burden of the symptoms in chronic fatigue syndrome

Quote:

Results: Ten subjects were enrolled in the study. The Chalder Fatigue Scale score improved significantly after 8 weeks of the HCL/PR chocolate arm [median (range) Exact Sig. (2-tailed)] [33 (25 - 38) vs. 21.5 (6 - 35) 0.01], but that deteriorated significantly when subjects were given simulated iso-calorific chocolate (CLF/CP) [ 28.5 (17 - 20) vs. 34.5 (13-26) 0.03]. The residual function, as assessed by the London Handicap scale, also improved significantly after the HCL/PR arm [0.49 (0.33 - 0.62) vs. 0.64 (0.44 - 0.83) 0.01] and deteriorated after iso-calorific chocolate [00.44 (0.43 - 0.68) vs. 0.36 (0.33 - 0.62)0.03]. Likewise the Hospital Anxiety and Depression score also improved after the HCL/PR arm, but deteriorated after CLF/CP. Mean weight remained unchanged throughout the trial.

Conclusion: This study suggests that HCL/PR chocolate may improve symptoms in subjects with chronic fatigue syndrome.

Dr. Greger said that it would take 2,5 tablespoons of cocoa powder a day to get the same amount than what was used in the study. He also suggested that one could add the cocoa to coffee or blend it with some berries.

That's about 10 calories per tablespoon of cocoa powder (non-Dutch); so 2.5 T is 25 calories with about 1.25 grams of fat. Can't hurt to put some cocoa powder on your strawberries or just make bitter chocolate "tea" with the cocoa powder to replace a cup of black coffee?

Orange1 · **Joined:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:06 pm **Posts:** 167

I've tried it. Unfortunately I get these all day massive headaches. So I stopped the chocolate, headaches went away. I started it up again, headaches came back.

Someday something oughta work.

Adrienne · **Joined:** Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:26 pm **Posts:** 1116

Thanks for posting the links to these videos. I watched them all. The stuff on poultry (link to leukemia, lymphoma and acute paralysis) is so frightening.

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